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No Political Zone Reminder
For our newbies, and our old-bies as well, just a quick reminder to read the two Sticky posts with regards to our focus and posting guidelines.
This is a No Politics Zone - by that I mean no partisan politics. Please control your urge to share your thoughts about the current administration, the upcoming administration, the two major parties, and all politicos, with this group.
This is a No Politics Zone - by that I mean no partisan politics. Please control your urge to share your thoughts about the current administration, the upcoming administration, the two major parties, and all politicos, with this group.
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DO NOT POST UNCREDITED COPY & PASTE ARTICLES
It is against copyright laws to copy articles you find on the internet and then post them in this group or anywhere else - without attribution. It is against Eons TOU.
Again -- If you wish to copy and paste something, YOU MUST GIVE THE ATTRIBUTION. YOU MUST CITE THE AUTHOR AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT.
Any posts of this nature without attribution will be immediately deleted. Don't think for a minute that I can't google your article and find it.
And let me say this again - when you copy and post something without attribution, it is STEALING. It is PLAGARISM to post something as if you had written it yourself. Is this concept too difficult for people to grasp?
FURTHERMORE - (can you tell I'm irked?), do not post articles verbatim from the internet - or your email - without SUBSTANTIAL commentary from you. This is The Deeper THINKERS group, not The Shallow Copy and Paste Because I Am Too Damn Lazy to Come Up With My Own Thoughts On A Subject group.
Again -- If you wish to copy and paste something, YOU MUST GIVE THE ATTRIBUTION. YOU MUST CITE THE AUTHOR AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT.
Any posts of this nature without attribution will be immediately deleted. Don't think for a minute that I can't google your article and find it.
And let me say this again - when you copy and post something without attribution, it is STEALING. It is PLAGARISM to post something as if you had written it yourself. Is this concept too difficult for people to grasp?
FURTHERMORE - (can you tell I'm irked?), do not post articles verbatim from the internet - or your email - without SUBSTANTIAL commentary from you. This is The Deeper THINKERS group, not The Shallow Copy and Paste Because I Am Too Damn Lazy to Come Up With My Own Thoughts On A Subject group.
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GROUP PURPOSE AND POSTING GUIDELINES
This group dedicates itself primarily to considering the great eternal themes and universal ideas of a philosophical, metaphysical, and psychological nature. It is not a place to discuss politics - there are a number of excellent groups on Eons better suited for that. It is not a place to proselytize your religious affiliations. In discussions of life's philosophical and psychological issues, religion will naturally come into play, but this group is neither a camp meeting nor a pulpit.
Disparaging and denigrating remarks of any kind will be removed by the group administration without PM'ing the writer. We will not tolerate diatribes or name-calling. You may attack the idea, but not the poster.
While we will discuss most topics, this is NOT an anything-goes group. We will enforce the rules for civil discussion and maintain the peace so that all people feel comfortable in joining the discussion without fear of attack.
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Disparaging and denigrating remarks of any kind will be removed by the group administration without PM'ing the writer. We will not tolerate diatribes or name-calling. You may attack the idea, but not the poster.
While we will discuss most topics, this is NOT an anything-goes group. We will enforce the rules for civil discussion and maintain the peace so that all people feel comfortable in joining the discussion without fear of attack.
GUIDELINES FOR POSTING:
- We will not accept videos without your commenting on their content. All videos MUST be in First Reply in order to keep our busy First Page easily navigable.
- Loooong posts: please make a short teaser main post and put the bulk of your remarks in First Reply.
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Lists and Infinity
Umberto Eco says:
The list is the origin of culture. It's part of the history of art and literature. What does culture want? To make infinity comprehensible. It also wants to create order -- not always, but often. And how, as a human being, does one face infinity? How does one attempt to grasp the incomprehensible? Through lists, through catalogs, through collections in museums and through encyclopedias and dictionaries. There is an allure to enumerating how many women Don Giovanni slept with: It was 2,063, at least according to Mozart's librettist, Lorenzo da Ponte. We also have completely practical lists -- the shopping list, the will, the menu -- that are also cultural achievements in their own right.
The list doesn't destroy culture; it creates it. Wherever you look in cultural history, you will find lists. In fact, there is a dizzying array: lists of saints, armies and medicinal plants, or of treasures and book titles. Think of the nature collections of the 16th century.
Isn't this a fascinating way of looking at lists and cataloging? Lists as a means of keeping the abyss at bay, of distrating us from having to contemplate infinity.
The list is the origin of culture. It's part of the history of art and literature. What does culture want? To make infinity comprehensible. It also wants to create order -- not always, but often. And how, as a human being, does one face infinity? How does one attempt to grasp the incomprehensible? Through lists, through catalogs, through collections in museums and through encyclopedias and dictionaries. There is an allure to enumerating how many women Don Giovanni slept with: It was 2,063, at least according to Mozart's librettist, Lorenzo da Ponte. We also have completely practical lists -- the shopping list, the will, the menu -- that are also cultural achievements in their own right.
The list doesn't destroy culture; it creates it. Wherever you look in cultural history, you will find lists. In fact, there is a dizzying array: lists of saints, armies and medicinal plants, or of treasures and book titles. Think of the nature collections of the 16th century.
Isn't this a fascinating way of looking at lists and cataloging? Lists as a means of keeping the abyss at bay, of distrating us from having to contemplate infinity.
Noah's flood.....
History International has a special about Noah's flood.....
It centers on the theory regarding a super flood from the Med to create the Black Sea out of a lake some 8,000 years ago.....
The idea is that a significant portion of the human population at the time was likely there and the ones that survived this flood spread far and wide bringing the memory with them.....
Hence Gilgamesh and Noah and so forth.....
They point out that the Earth was apparently coming out of the last ice age at the time.....they seem to have found an ancient shoreline.....believe they found evidence of a super flood to confirm a computer model.....believe they may have found evidence of human habitation at one of the sites.....
So the question.....plausible? Or no?
To me, it appears plausible, but more work needs to be done.....
It centers on the theory regarding a super flood from the Med to create the Black Sea out of a lake some 8,000 years ago.....
The idea is that a significant portion of the human population at the time was likely there and the ones that survived this flood spread far and wide bringing the memory with them.....
Hence Gilgamesh and Noah and so forth.....
They point out that the Earth was apparently coming out of the last ice age at the time.....they seem to have found an ancient shoreline.....believe they found evidence of a super flood to confirm a computer model.....believe they may have found evidence of human habitation at one of the sites.....
So the question.....plausible? Or no?
To me, it appears plausible, but more work needs to be done.....
A Little Bird Told Me
About ½ hour ago my wife told me a little bird was trapped in the east window in our garage. I went out to look and took the little critter’s picture behind the window pane before trying to open the main garage door – which the garage door opener wouldn’t open.
So I got my keys and opened the side door and found out the garage was on fire -- it was the junction box to the filtration pumps to the Koi Pond. I put it out OK then opened the main door manually to let the little guy out.
If it wasn’t for this little bird my garage could have burned down.
Thanks for telling me little bird....
So I got my keys and opened the side door and found out the garage was on fire -- it was the junction box to the filtration pumps to the Koi Pond. I put it out OK then opened the main door manually to let the little guy out.
If it wasn’t for this little bird my garage could have burned down.
Thanks for telling me little bird....
Sting's "Definition" of Christmas
"A period of intense loneliness and alienation"
Now before everyone jumps in disagreeing, my question is not whether you aree, but rather what will you be doing this season for those for whom Sting's characterization is true?
Now before everyone jumps in disagreeing, my question is not whether you aree, but rather what will you be doing this season for those for whom Sting's characterization is true?
Filet of Soul
A recent comment by my friend Wot referred to our concept of the soul, and though we've been down this road before, it made me wonder...
What exactly are the components of a soul?
Is there a standard recipe? Some with extra ingredients? Or even a home-brewed definition? I'm dying to know.
What exactly are the components of a soul?
Is there a standard recipe? Some with extra ingredients? Or even a home-brewed definition? I'm dying to know.
Ever read the physics of Christianity?
Religious law in conjunction with natural law (physics) with whatever you want someone to believe.
It's a book through history that negates every theme not associated with christianity via physical laws of nature to prove reality.
It's a hard read. It's not based on a universe but a multiverse. It explains miracles. It explains how the future determines our past. It's physics. It's natural law; even the old testement had it right.
I just had a glimpse at understanding infinity. I tried to understand Einstein, I tried to understand Hawkings. I was a math major; I still don't get their equations.
Miracles are not miracles, they are just our lack of understanding about baryon annihilation
It's a book through history that negates every theme not associated with christianity via physical laws of nature to prove reality.
It's a hard read. It's not based on a universe but a multiverse. It explains miracles. It explains how the future determines our past. It's physics. It's natural law; even the old testement had it right.
I just had a glimpse at understanding infinity. I tried to understand Einstein, I tried to understand Hawkings. I was a math major; I still don't get their equations.
Miracles are not miracles, they are just our lack of understanding about baryon annihilation
