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Does McCain even know he insulted
that man in the audience????? At least I thought it was insulting when he looked at him and said
"you probably have no idea who Freddie Mac and Frannie Mae are"
What a fricking condescending creep.
Unbelieveable!
"you probably have no idea who Freddie Mac and Frannie Mae are"
What a fricking condescending creep.
Unbelieveable!
Is anyone else watching this?
Articulate, considered, pragmatic vs. cocky, "trust me, I know how to fix this!" crap.
Obama is doing us proud, in my not so humble opinion.
Obama is doing us proud, in my not so humble opinion.
First analysis of debate
Instant Polls Find Obama Won Debate
CNN poll of debate viewers: Obama 54%, McCain 30%
CBS poll of uncommitted voters: Obama 39%, McCain 27%
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Also:
Marc Ambinder: "CW says that John McCain had a 90 minute window to turn his campaign around - to put into play the McCain Resurgence Strategy, if you will, and if that's the CW threshold, I don't think McCain met it."
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CNN poll of debate viewers: Obama 54%, McCain 30%
CBS poll of uncommitted voters: Obama 39%, McCain 27%
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Also:
Marc Ambinder: "CW says that John McCain had a 90 minute window to turn his campaign around - to put into play the McCain Resurgence Strategy, if you will, and if that's the CW threshold, I don't think McCain met it."
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Joe Six Pack
Interesting debate, and I know this would never happen, but I would have loved to see Obama turn to McCain and say "Senator...I know Joe Six Pack. Joe Six Pack is a friend of mine, and you, senator, are no Joe Six Pack."
OR
How about a bit of comic relief with this bumper sticker: Thanks But No Thanks For This Campaign To Nowhere
OR
How about a bit of comic relief with this bumper sticker: Thanks But No Thanks For This Campaign To Nowhere
SECRET SERVICE INVESTIGATES PALIN'S CROWD
MSNBC reports that some in the crowd were yelling, 'terrorist', 'treason', 'kill him' during Palin's speech today, prompting investigation. This is a breaking story and details are not yet known. Shades of KKK! They even yelled a an African American camera or lighting guy. Jesus Christ. What is this campaign coming to?
Time UK article on Palin
Shallow, fake...Sarah Palin is beyond parody
The kid-glove treatment of the Republican vp candidate is an insult to women
Full article:
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A few paragraphs in first reply.
The kid-glove treatment of the Republican vp candidate is an insult to women
Full article:
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A few paragraphs in first reply.
ELIZABETH
Is she for real? How can a young mother with young minds to train and nurture, harbor all that crap in hers...to pass on????
Now I really don't mind people with opposite views cause thats what life is all about..but to sit in righteous judgement of someone of whom you have not taken the time to find out the truth about is downright stupid and dishonest.
Is this what this country has been slowly growing into...supposedly bright young minds with influence not being able to rationally research a topic and discuss it using facts and the truth?
I fail to see how a child of eight years old can be the crony of a grown man, who in later years he is ask to be chairman of an organisation that , that grown man had already been a member of, be his PAL.
Come on now...isn't that the thinking of a crazed, desperate and reached the bottom of the barrel, with nothing more to bring to the table thinking????
Well...maybe I am wrong!
Now I really don't mind people with opposite views cause thats what life is all about..but to sit in righteous judgement of someone of whom you have not taken the time to find out the truth about is downright stupid and dishonest.
Is this what this country has been slowly growing into...supposedly bright young minds with influence not being able to rationally research a topic and discuss it using facts and the truth?
I fail to see how a child of eight years old can be the crony of a grown man, who in later years he is ask to be chairman of an organisation that , that grown man had already been a member of, be his PAL.
Come on now...isn't that the thinking of a crazed, desperate and reached the bottom of the barrel, with nothing more to bring to the table thinking????
Well...maybe I am wrong!
A Country in Shambles, Under GOP Rule
By Glenn Greenwald, Salon. Posted October 7, 2008.
[Glenn Greenwald is a Constitutional law attorney and chief blogger at Unclaimed Territory. His forthcoming book, How Would a Patriot Act: Defending American Values from a President Run Amok will be released by Working Assets Publishing next month.]
There are few things that make political coverage more unbearable -- and more distorting -- than The David Brooks Syndrome: the extremely patronizing and ill-informed pretense, shared by media and right-wing elites alike, that they can study the Little Common Person like a zoo animal, and then translate and give voice to their simple-minded, good-hearted, salt-of-the-earth perspectives. Rarely has this mentality been so transparent as in the wake of the Biden-Palin debate, as pundits and right-wing polemicists like Brooks, Peggy Noonan and Rich "Starbursts" Lowry rushed forward to proclaim giddily that Regular Americans would love Sarah Palin and this love could even help McCain win, despite -- or, really, because of -- her vapid, content-free telegenic presence.
Actual empirical evidence -- called "polling data" -- has almost uniformly demonstrated how false these condescending pats on the head are, as every single poll conducted thus far (at least that I'm aware of) found that Americans believed that Biden won and is the far more serious candidate for office, and huge numbers continue to have profound doubts about Palin's fitness for office. And the first tracking poll to report a full post-debate day of polling -- the Research 2000 poll for Daily Kos -- finds Obama with a 13-point lead, his largest ever. This joint right-wing/pundit claim that Americans would swoon in the face of Palin's empty chatter, self-conscious folksiness and chronic, seizure-like winking says much more about those making the claim than it does about their Regular People subjects.
As polling data conclusively demonstrates, the mindset of the voting public is infinitely more rational and substance-based than the pundits and the Right fantasize when they lyrically praise the Regular American -- at least it is in this time of perceived (and actual crisis). What's happening in this country, and in this election, is rather simple and easy to see: (1) the country is in total shambles -- possibly far worse than what people even realize; (2) we have lived for the last eight years under virtually absolute GOP rule; (3) the public knows this; (4) the Republican President and his party are therefore intensely -- historically -- unpopular; and (5) the voting public doesn't want to continue living under the rule of the same faction and same political party that has driven the country into the ground. Having Sarah Palin drop her gerund endings and desperately trotting out the standard, tired GOP attack ads to depict Obama as a radical, fist-pumping, America-hating, unhinged socialist -- when everyone can see with their own eyes that he isn't -- won't change any of that.
That the Right believes in the fundamental stupidity of the American voter while simultaneously pretending to revere and speak for them them is reflected in their belief that they can successfully blame the financial crisis and the country's woes generally on Democrats, who -- while hardly covering themselves with glory -- haven't had any meaningful power in this country for as long as one can remember. Ponder how stupid you must think Americans are to believe that you can blame the financial crisis on the 2004 statements of House Democrats about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when that was a time when the GOP controlled all branches of the Government and nothing could have been more inconsequential than what Barney Frank or Maxine Waters, languishing in the minority in Tom DeLay's tyrannical House, said or did about anything.
In sum, Americans hate the way the country has been ruled, the economic crisis is making them hate that more by the minute, and the country has been dominated by Republican rule for the last eight years -- at least. It's just this simple:
And the reality is even more imbalanced than that graph illustrates: between (1) the tiny margins the Democrats have had when controlling the Senate, (2) the true functional majority of "GOP + Blue Dogs" in the House, and (3) Democratic complicity and fear, it is GOP policy which ends up prevailing in virtually every instance of alleged "bipartisanship" even during those tiny slivers of ostensible Democratic control.
The overarching reality of the country is that we've lived under unchallenged Republican rule and the country has virtually collapsed on every level. No matter how dumb Rich Lowry and David Brooks fantasize The Regular People to be, those facts are far too glaring to suppress.
Copyright 2008 Salon Media Group, Inc.
[This material is made available in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107: This article is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.]
[Glenn Greenwald is a Constitutional law attorney and chief blogger at Unclaimed Territory. His forthcoming book, How Would a Patriot Act: Defending American Values from a President Run Amok will be released by Working Assets Publishing next month.]
There are few things that make political coverage more unbearable -- and more distorting -- than The David Brooks Syndrome: the extremely patronizing and ill-informed pretense, shared by media and right-wing elites alike, that they can study the Little Common Person like a zoo animal, and then translate and give voice to their simple-minded, good-hearted, salt-of-the-earth perspectives. Rarely has this mentality been so transparent as in the wake of the Biden-Palin debate, as pundits and right-wing polemicists like Brooks, Peggy Noonan and Rich "Starbursts" Lowry rushed forward to proclaim giddily that Regular Americans would love Sarah Palin and this love could even help McCain win, despite -- or, really, because of -- her vapid, content-free telegenic presence.
Actual empirical evidence -- called "polling data" -- has almost uniformly demonstrated how false these condescending pats on the head are, as every single poll conducted thus far (at least that I'm aware of) found that Americans believed that Biden won and is the far more serious candidate for office, and huge numbers continue to have profound doubts about Palin's fitness for office. And the first tracking poll to report a full post-debate day of polling -- the Research 2000 poll for Daily Kos -- finds Obama with a 13-point lead, his largest ever. This joint right-wing/pundit claim that Americans would swoon in the face of Palin's empty chatter, self-conscious folksiness and chronic, seizure-like winking says much more about those making the claim than it does about their Regular People subjects.
As polling data conclusively demonstrates, the mindset of the voting public is infinitely more rational and substance-based than the pundits and the Right fantasize when they lyrically praise the Regular American -- at least it is in this time of perceived (and actual crisis). What's happening in this country, and in this election, is rather simple and easy to see: (1) the country is in total shambles -- possibly far worse than what people even realize; (2) we have lived for the last eight years under virtually absolute GOP rule; (3) the public knows this; (4) the Republican President and his party are therefore intensely -- historically -- unpopular; and (5) the voting public doesn't want to continue living under the rule of the same faction and same political party that has driven the country into the ground. Having Sarah Palin drop her gerund endings and desperately trotting out the standard, tired GOP attack ads to depict Obama as a radical, fist-pumping, America-hating, unhinged socialist -- when everyone can see with their own eyes that he isn't -- won't change any of that.
That the Right believes in the fundamental stupidity of the American voter while simultaneously pretending to revere and speak for them them is reflected in their belief that they can successfully blame the financial crisis and the country's woes generally on Democrats, who -- while hardly covering themselves with glory -- haven't had any meaningful power in this country for as long as one can remember. Ponder how stupid you must think Americans are to believe that you can blame the financial crisis on the 2004 statements of House Democrats about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when that was a time when the GOP controlled all branches of the Government and nothing could have been more inconsequential than what Barney Frank or Maxine Waters, languishing in the minority in Tom DeLay's tyrannical House, said or did about anything.
In sum, Americans hate the way the country has been ruled, the economic crisis is making them hate that more by the minute, and the country has been dominated by Republican rule for the last eight years -- at least. It's just this simple:
And the reality is even more imbalanced than that graph illustrates: between (1) the tiny margins the Democrats have had when controlling the Senate, (2) the true functional majority of "GOP + Blue Dogs" in the House, and (3) Democratic complicity and fear, it is GOP policy which ends up prevailing in virtually every instance of alleged "bipartisanship" even during those tiny slivers of ostensible Democratic control.
The overarching reality of the country is that we've lived under unchallenged Republican rule and the country has virtually collapsed on every level. No matter how dumb Rich Lowry and David Brooks fantasize The Regular People to be, those facts are far too glaring to suppress.
Copyright 2008 Salon Media Group, Inc.
[This material is made available in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107: This article is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.]
What We See Is What There Is
McC is darkly hinting that there is something strange yet to be discovered about Obama, something off-kilter that will lose the presidency for the Senator from Illinois.
No, there isn't. There are no secrets, no hidden agendas, no cobwebbed corners.
No, there isn't. There are no secrets, no hidden agendas, no cobwebbed corners.
