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Why there is no debate anymore

Dialogue is painfully absent on this site. I know that I, and many others, have so many emotions welling up inside of us about where our country is headed. It is frightening to the point of making us silent in our anquish. The fact is that everyday, we hear from thoose who are so hateful, arrogant and intolerant of any debate that does not line up with the politically correct veiws of the elite in power. The climate is so unamerican and so antichristain, that it is hard to believe. The response to the tea parties is a example. The present administration labels these Americans as "extremists, potential terrrorists" and are totally clueless about what is being said. They think that if the average, stupid working American gets $400. in a tax rebate, he will shut up and not see, or not care, that socialism, big government with insurrountable debt will burden his children and grandchildren. The media elites ridicule these American people and call them obscene names,lie about the facts & numbers, and arrogantly dismiss them as idiots. There is a real threat to any American who believes in personal liberty, and especially to any American who would dare to believe in the Christian faith. Dailogue is so difficult because there is so much vitriole, dangerous unamerican propaganda and close minded hatred in high places and suppored by the media that the average person is dumbfounded. Many of us still believe in an America with intelligent political discourse, freedom to worship as the founding fathers fought and died for, fiscal rsponsibility, morality, and an honest work ethic. We can not fathom that these things are no longer a part of the American culture as the people in power have defined America. How can you debate this? All you can do is weep...pray...and let your voice be heard while you still have some remmant of freedom of speech.
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I LOVE AMERICA!

I just now found this group while searching the groups listed under learning. I'm truly surprised more haven't joined, and there's been so little recent activity here.

Where are all the patriots and constitutionalists? I'm in a fight with "City Hall" right now and have had trouble finding an attorney who will take my case a get a ruling on the illegal acts performed in my case - acts that have trompled on several Constitutional Rights!

I keep asking.....Doesn't anyone believe in protecting our Constitution and the citizens of this great Nation? Others have had their rights denied, and I pray people wake up and protect what's left before we lose it all.
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political correctness

I believe in sensitivity, but some people have taken it right down to stupid. I complained to my brother about it once and he said "We don't have to be politically correct, we're from Forest Lake". I laughed out loud! His delivery I think. He really could be a stand up comic, if it weren't for his day job. When I thought about what he was saying (underlying message), We are Americans and this is still our country is what he ment. We have relatives that were not all born U.S. citizens, but everyone of our family has come to this country with the intent (and demonstrated) they will comply with our laws, learn our ways, and LANGUAGE. None are on public assistance, all are self supportive. It's really hard to listen to illegals crying about their rights being violated in America.
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Hear the latest about the terrorist?

The terrorist in Iraq - and what they are doing to their own people is beyond understanding.

CANNIBALISM ON CHILDREN - EATING THEIR SKIN ETC. AND THE PARENTS HAD TO EAT THEIR OWN CHILDREN. IT MAKES ME WANT TO BE SICK IN FRONT OF CONGRESS AND THE IDIOTS IN THE UNITED STATES WHO WANT THIS TO HAPPEN HERE. I THOUGHT I LIVED IN A BETTER WORLD THEN THIS. WHAT IT HAS BECOME IS IN THE GUTTER AND ALL IS LOST, WHEN CANNIBALISM IS BACK IN THE PICTURE.

I thought this was gone off the face of the earth by now - and the Congress wants to have this happen over here, for they want our troops back into the United States, so the terrorists who are here can do this stuff in our neighborhoods, etc. While THE CONGRESSMAN GO HOME TO THEIR SAFE HOMES IN WASHINGTON WITH GUARDS PROTECTING THEM. They are idiots!!!!!!

There is no hope anymore when something like this occurs in a modern day society. I thought people were more intelligent, not some flee brain dork.

We need some HERO'S in this country, but quickly, not later.
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The Constitution

Our Second Rights Amendment is going right out the door with Harry Reid, who wants to shut the mouths of Americans on the illegal bill done by Ted Kennedy and Mr. McCann and hailed by our President, who at the moment is not one I believe in right at this time.

How would these lovely Liberals love to have a libel suit on their hands from Americans, who are not prejudice, but want a bill that will keep us from harm.

I've seen that on the borders right now the illegal gangs are killing and decapitating the heads of cops, etc. while they come into this country to rob casinos, etc. They come into this country not assimilating to our traditions and conquering small towns in our country. We their Mexican flags. They will not have that on the news. I don't mind if they are LEGAL, FOR THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

We don't want to try to vie for jobs, when the employer says "We only hire illegals", we don't want the criminals in this country, already in Wisconsin there are filled prisons from illegals who come here and commit crimes like killing a family son, but he left the country or went somewhere else before they could take him to jail, for the judge gave him a pass, and another most recently 3 women, and three small children, one survived a gunshot to the chest, but the rest were killed. WE DON'T NEED THIS IN OUR COUNTRY. And what makes me even more angrier is the fact that some religious leaders are saying it is okay for the evil ones to come here. This is nuts!

The terrorist are in this country out East in some small towns doing their thing and murdering those around them, without help from the government the people are upset.

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR! comes to mind.

The President did know there were weapons of mass destruction, and if you were observant, you saw convoys on the TV that were taking those out of Iraq, before the war. And it not only was the President, it was the people of Congress who also agreed with a mighty voice. Oh, and the soldiers are finding them in and around Iraq in certain areas, but people now-a-days only listen to what they want to hear, and it goes in one ear and out the other.

And Nancy Pelosi is never going to be my government mother. For a mother would never talk to the enemy, she would protect me from my enemies, if I needed the help, a mother would never allow words to form in her throat and belittle me, like Pelosi has done. A mother would never say I was prejudice, since I was little we were taught to be kind to other people, unless those people were deceitful and dishonest. It is like the Liberals are making my parents into something they are not, and that makes me even angrier, for I will defend my parents forever. That is why I would love to sue her and others on the Liberal side for saying such a thing that isn't true. And finally, my mother would never tell me I'm stupid and don't know what is going on around me. I CAN SEE, I CAN READ VERY WELL, AND I CAN TAKE IN INFORMATION AROUND ME QUITE EASILY YET. I'M AN OBSERVER, AS WELL. I know their plans, for they are drug dealers, criminal minded, for they love those criminals in this country, they want to be gods, with the United Nations has their soldiers. They want that power over another, like the mother's and government of this country, who forget that whatever you add in food, someone else could be allergic to eat, like me with sunflower oil and wheat, and could have many a problem with when eaten.

They are worthless pions, stepping on us like piss ants and we should not be taking this at all. WE ARE NOT IN A COMMUNIST COUNTRY YET, THIS COUNTRY IS STILL FREE. My ancestors didn't fight the Civil War on both sides and WWI, and WWII for nothing, they should start arising from their graves, and haunt afew in their dreams at night in the government.
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prayers and giving of thanks....

We are told in the Bible that if we want to lead quiet and peaceable lives in all godliness and honesty we are to pray for and thank God for those in authority.
It does not say we are to agree with them or like them but if we are to remain a sane, civil and free society we must stop the rancor, and childish unreasonable behavior.
I do not believe that many people actually want quiet and peacable lives today, if it means that they would have to pray for their president. They would rather negotiate with an enemy that has attacked them and vows to kill us all.
There were those who defended Hitler during WW11 in this country. In Hollywood, Errol Flynn and others were as anti-American then as so many in Hollywood are today.
There were those who defended Communism, (and still do), and jeered at President Reagan when he stood up to that evil. It is nothing new to have those malcontents among us who want to blame America for everything and use their freedoms that others have fought and died for to express their hatred.
It is our great privilege to live in this greatest county in the world, to be free to pray for all those in authority and to RESPECTFULLY disagree with anyone and voice our opinions. These freedoms are being abused and used to do great harm by those who do not understand the evil in the world. They are obsesssed with hating those that they should be praying for.

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Bush

Just read your 102 reasons for hating.
Before reading this today I could not reason how he could get elect for the second term. Now I can not reason why he has not been inmeached
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on being not of the norm

you know how you go on down the service road of life..........minding your own business.........just kicking the stones with your tennis shoes........smelling the fresh air.....watching the clouds in the big beautiful sky.........and along the way you meet a group of others who say.......hey why don`t you come on over here and join us and play with us and be part of our group.......well at this point you have been rambling down this road and you would not mind the feeling of being apart of some thing....belonging....that feels good..........and you spend your time sharing opinions and etc.........until one day
you are asked THE QUESTION .........and you or me to be correct answer THAT QUESTION honestly......and you think nothing of it........low and behold......the lynching party brakes out.......and they come for you because you or me have the courage to think for your self.........these people who i thought were those of like minded......i have found to be such closed minded .......the politically correct nazis`s..........
this is why i left the area where i was working
and raising my child at that time..........because i had the courage to think for myself and was not part of the herd of sheep..............i thought in this day and age of time ..........we could feel safe in expressing views or opinions of the social climate we live in ....especially in this country..........but we cannot.........this country has become so polarized in this last 6 years.......it is very scary.........thankfully i am not bringing no other children into the world..........because it is in a hell of a mess.........so of i go again down the service road of life........not with rosey sun glasses on.........but with a very suspicious view of those i meet........
and making sure i keep all new comers further than arms reach...........thank you and good luck
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My new membership

Hello, I am delighted to join the group. I am a registered Democrate but an independent voter. I vote for the person instead of the party.
I recently retired from Managing a large Water Treatment Plant in the Triangle area of NC after 33 years of service.
I believe in th U.S. Constitution as it is written. There is no interpetation necessary because of its written clarity. I hope to generate some lively discussion of my differing views and assure all that I respect all views.
Thank you again for allowing me to join. I look forward to discussions with the group.
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I hate this politically correct stuff

Well, I haven't read all the reasons to hate Bush. I figure one person is not responsible for all this countries problems. But I think this politically correct junk stinks. Come on already this is the land of free speach. Frankly, I think we Americans have to stand up and take our country back, or live with the consequences.
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