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Breaking Free

One of the reasons I am having a hard time with this group is because I have been reading the book, "A New Earth, Awakening to Your Life's Purpose" by Eckhart Tolle.
Although this group is a great place to bounce off ideas and to learn from each other, it is also a place that creates the contiuum of pain-body experience.
We are not in the present moment when our pain bodies feed off of each other. We all identify with our pain bodies. If you go out and get a copy of this book, maybe would could discuss it here. I trying to attain more spirituality here. I don't want to make others angry. That would be your ego talking. I want to help others to be more at peace with whatever is going on. I come from a holistic studies background-the cococnut massages, shiatsu,etc.
Because I have been depressed, I am trying to work on me. Then I can help others. I just recommend reading the book.
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I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say.

It is that we shouldn't be talking about our pain? Have you read of lot of the new posts lately?

Yes, we do talk about out pain and everything that comes with fibro, but that is what a support group is. We get support here for the way we feel and have to deal with it, that we may not get from our families and friends.

We have also been posting many new items about being positive and learning better ways to cope with our fibro and how it affects our lives.

We also all have a certain degree of depression at times and all of us are here to help each other thru it. Our posts have been showing each other the better side of living with this and how not to be depressed so much of the time.

Discussions on life changing habits, meds, financial problems and how to get help, jobs (or lack of one), families, friends, pain, wellness and many more topics are discussed here. Members post to those they want and skip over those they don't.

The definitive word here is "support" in this group. Perhaps you can find a link to this book for us to read and then we can discuss it with you.

BTW, I am not offended by what you wrote and I hope you aren't with what I wrote. Just trying to explain why we come to this group.

Sparkle on.
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3 months ago
I haven't read that book but I have heard about it. I understand the concept & I do agree with it. It is a very spiritual walk we are on and we are all on different levels in that walk. In my spiritual walk, I am still dealing with fibro and it's effect on my life. This group is helping greatly. I am learning so much and the support is wonderful.
I do understand your post though & I am happy that you are benefitting from Tolle's book. I do think we could all benefit from it. Oprah had the online study of the book but I don't know if she is still doing it.
Also here on Eons we have groups called "A Course In Miracles." The teachings are very similar to Tolle's and we can download or just read the material online.
Unfortunately, my ego does get in the way & I am still dealing with my fibro on a physical level. I will get there though.
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3 months ago
I am confused.
"We are not in the present moment when our pain bodies feed off of each other. We all identify with our pain bodies."

Are you saying we feed off of each others pain?
"Pain bodies" what is this?

Maybe is is the use of unfamiliar terms that has thrown me off. Not attacking just curious.
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3 months ago
I'm not sure what you are trying to say either. Where else would someone in pain go for support except to those who understand? it seems here we have a number doing well along with those who aren't. those who are doing well encourage, support, recommend, help and teach those who aren't.

My pain doesn't come from this group. My pain led me to this group. It was more important to me to find others, like myself, who understood my pain than the friends who know me and don't understand.

Pain bodies? that's what we have. Hopefully my pain has no effect on others as theirs does not have me. I feel no worse for having been in this group and probably feel a bit better knowing i'm not crazy (well not totally anyhow). When I am in pain I am in the present moment, all to much, be it here or somewhere else.

I'm glad you are working on yourself. It's a 24/7 job with most of us.

I'm sorry you are having a hard time with depression right now. It makes everything seem worse. Work on yourself. You helped others before. You will again. sometimes I think we give to much of ourselves away to help others and it will catch up to us in various ways.

be well and remember, you first.

peace baby
Lily
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3 months ago
I too am not sure what your talking about. I feel this is a wonderful group and in NO way are we feeding off each others pains and problems. I learn from these things as I feel others do too. Like others have said "This is a support group" and to me that is what we are getting from one another and giving to one another.
As for the new age stuff, I am sorry but call me old fashioned. My spiritual walk is through MY GOD who is in the heavens above and all around me. I walk each day in with his spirit around me. That is the only holistic thing that I personnelly need.
What works for you is fine but for me "This group Works" and I love each and every person here and learn from them.
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3 months ago
I understand what you are saying. Pain feeds off of pain, negativity off of negativity. But joy, laughter and positive thinking also feeds on itself. In our support group we have people on both ends of the spectrum at any given moment. We offer both random thoughts and specific advice. We ask for help when we are down. We share uplifting stories and advice when we are up. That is what a support group does. As mentioned, if you feel the "down" posts make you focus too much on pain then skip over them. We can reply or just read what we want here. I, too, am reading the book. I read one chapter then digest it a couple of days. As you are going through this "spititual awakening" you may choose to take a break from this group and any other things in your daily life that you feel create that pain-body continuum. It is a new way of thinking to be sure! But remember that you and you alone create your reality. That is one of the points of the book. Online we do not push others away by admitting our pain and frustration.(As mentioned in the book about face-to-face interaction.)I will say that this book is not for everyone. It clearly states that some people are ready and some are not. There is a discussion group on oprah.com and I think the series of lessons is still available there as well. Wanting to help others is an admirable thing. Each of us do it in our own way, of course! Many things are posted on this group that "hit a nerve" so to speak with other members: those "yeah, I'm right there with you" things, or those "OMG, I've been through that and I agree it was awful things" but also those WOW things in our lives. As you continue your personal spiritual journey remember that we care about ALL of our members whether they just read the posts, reply to them or open new topics. Take a break if you need to and come back and jump in anytime, my friend! Hugs, Marcia
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3 months ago
I apologize for bringing in this topic. It's like trying to get the meaning of someone's conversation, after just hearing the middle and end.
I do believe strongly in support groups. I go to one for anger management and other spiritual matters every week.
I am not sure if the podcasts for Eckhart Tolle's are free anymore. But will check in to that later. I am off to group. Have a great day!
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3 months ago
Nana, you put everything so well. Ever think of writing a book?
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3 months ago
Nana IS a book!!! LMA--never apologuze for bringing up any topic here--well, almost any. It looks like you sparked a spirited discussion and have made some of us curious enough to look at the book you mentioned. And I am glad it is working for you. Hugs.
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3 months ago
Thats right LMA - you are just wanting to pass on information that is helping you, please don't let it keep you from posting. hugs ((()))
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3 months ago
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