Grief
Grieving over a loss can lead eventually to depression, but I've read that grief is a necessary process. What do you think about all this? Is grief necessary? Can you medicate yourself out of that phase and avoid the pain?
I think that grief is an unavoidable process.In many of our losses, grieving is a time to deal with the pain and the changes about to come. Some medication may help some
deal with it all. I don't think it would have been the right thing for me. I needed to go through it, but someone close to me is still grieving, and is worse,even with medicine.
deal with it all. I don't think it would have been the right thing for me. I needed to go through it, but someone close to me is still grieving, and is worse,even with medicine.
3 months ago
I agree with hobbit. There is no way to avoid the process. If you try to, you just prolong it. It will manifest itself one way or another. People who are prone to depression have a harder time of it I think. The purpose of medication is to help you cope with the normal happenings of life. Death is part of life and we can't avoid it. I must say that my faith in God is what helps me. 2Timothy 1:7 is one of my favorite verses. "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,and of love, and a SOUND mind." I cling to this promise.
3 months ago
I saw in a magazine (was it Time?)an item about a partner saying "Can't we just be friends?" The author was saying that trying to be friends is denying ourselves the grief at the end of a love affair, and we need that grief to then go on to new relationships. There must be other similar grief situations. Do any come to mind?
3 months ago
I think this might apply. My Mom had a friend of 40 years betray her. The disillusionment she feels and that loss is full of grief. She doesn't recognize that yet, but in time I hope she will. Then move on.
3 months ago
It makes sense about the "can't we just be friends" item,which brings me me to Divorce,another grieving category.I went through a very painful ending to my first marriage,and even though I've been married to my second husband for 16 yrs....It still hurts when I think of the break-up of my first marriage(25yrs.)....I guess it's kinda like the death of a child,it will always hurt when it hits you,in my case,anyway.
3 months ago
Grief is a normal and natural process as I learned with I was trained to do death and dying counseling in the mid-70's using the Kubler-Ross process. However, there is a lot that can be done to short-circuit the process these days as there are therapies that were not widely known back then - at least for those who are the survivors of decedents or failed relationships or the like.
Neurolinguistic Programming is remarkable for being able to intervene in grief processes and help an individual detach from the emotions while retaining the memories. The problem is the sheer cost of most NLP practitioners. A good substitute is the book "Using Your Brain For A Change" by Richard Bandler (the father of NLP).
Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) is a grandchild of NLP and combines a variety of therapy strategies. It was developed by Minister Gary Craig using a variety of intervention techniques including acupressure. It sounds non-sensical, but a skilled practitioner can facilitate enormous release and healing in a short period of time. It is not, to my mind, as effective as NLP but also is not expensive. I've seen an EFT practitioner who identified issues I didn't even know were affecting me and I'm now off medication for GERD. Go figure.
Louise Hay's model (You can Heal Yourself) takes longer than NLP or EFT but is a nice adjunct and DIY project.
Caroline Myss, a medical intuitive, in some respects dovetails with Hay and expands upon her. Myss is not touchy-feelie - in fact, I find her rather abrasive at times - and can be off-putting, but she has things of value to share.
I also listen to the Abraham-Hicks material (or read it) and whether one believes Esther Hicks really channels an entity or whether she's just a darn perceptive woman is irrelevant. She has things to say that, if we practice them, contribute to peace and joy.
Having been through a recent loss I went first to NLP (from the book) and when that did not achieve the relief I wanted I went to an EFT practitioner. I've also worked with Hay's method and listened to a lot of Abraham-Hicks. My friends are astounded at how I am doing, but it is largely a function of how I am handling the loss rather than allowing it to handle me.
I chose not to suffer over the long term. I'd rather move from shock to anger (skipping denial), skip bargaining, depression, and testing and go to acceptance. This sometimes ends up with angry acceptance until the anger fades, but I'm not spending years grinding through recovery steps. I could not do it without techniques like NLP, EFT, etc.
- Autumn
Neurolinguistic Programming is remarkable for being able to intervene in grief processes and help an individual detach from the emotions while retaining the memories. The problem is the sheer cost of most NLP practitioners. A good substitute is the book "Using Your Brain For A Change" by Richard Bandler (the father of NLP).
Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) is a grandchild of NLP and combines a variety of therapy strategies. It was developed by Minister Gary Craig using a variety of intervention techniques including acupressure. It sounds non-sensical, but a skilled practitioner can facilitate enormous release and healing in a short period of time. It is not, to my mind, as effective as NLP but also is not expensive. I've seen an EFT practitioner who identified issues I didn't even know were affecting me and I'm now off medication for GERD. Go figure.
Louise Hay's model (You can Heal Yourself) takes longer than NLP or EFT but is a nice adjunct and DIY project.
Caroline Myss, a medical intuitive, in some respects dovetails with Hay and expands upon her. Myss is not touchy-feelie - in fact, I find her rather abrasive at times - and can be off-putting, but she has things of value to share.
I also listen to the Abraham-Hicks material (or read it) and whether one believes Esther Hicks really channels an entity or whether she's just a darn perceptive woman is irrelevant. She has things to say that, if we practice them, contribute to peace and joy.
Having been through a recent loss I went first to NLP (from the book) and when that did not achieve the relief I wanted I went to an EFT practitioner. I've also worked with Hay's method and listened to a lot of Abraham-Hicks. My friends are astounded at how I am doing, but it is largely a function of how I am handling the loss rather than allowing it to handle me.
I chose not to suffer over the long term. I'd rather move from shock to anger (skipping denial), skip bargaining, depression, and testing and go to acceptance. This sometimes ends up with angry acceptance until the anger fades, but I'm not spending years grinding through recovery steps. I could not do it without techniques like NLP, EFT, etc.
- Autumn
12 days ago
Autumn, do you think the book "Using Your Brain for a Change" would be helpful for plain depression, not involving grief?
12 days ago
