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Borrowing for Small Business

We do a lot of work with one, particular national Bank, in terms of Small Business Administration (SBA) Loans and referrals for people just starting out in Business. I had a meeting with the head of that Bank's SBA interface department yesterday, and the findings were alarming for anyone that relies on banks for Business borrowing, in general - not just SBA issues. This will affect both people who are buying/selling Businesses, as well as people that need to take out periodic loans for inventory, to get through seasonal cycles, even to borrow money to pay Taxes.

First, in buying/selling a business, it appears that the SBA is changing its lending practices, considerably. This is not new information; it has been anticipated for some time. The new changes were to have taken place in June, but have been delayed in August. The delay, in part I believe, is that they have not gotten the exact parameters for the changes laid out in stone, as yet.

Part of the change will apparently be in restricting the kinds of Businesses the SBA will support. The riskier the kind of Business, in the view of the SBA, the less chance it will back up the loan. This leaves it to the Bank itself to do the loan, it they care to make such a loan without SBA support, and Banks are notorious for not taking risk on their own.

For those of you who do not know what the SBA does, suffice it to say that it does not loan money, itself. It provides insurance, for lack of a getter term, to Banks which make the loans for Business purposes. These kinds of changes are common at various times in economic cycles, but this series of changes are more critical than most and will definitely hurt Business Owners that are thinking of retiring, any time soon.

Perhaps the most serious blow is that the SBA appears to be taking the position that it will not lend money as completely as it did in the past; it will rely on the Business Owner who is selling his/her Business to take a secondary note. Though the changes are not set as yet, as stated above, it is possible that the SBA will not lend on anything paid by the Buyer for Goodwill, or that it will lower the amount of Goodwill the SBA will guarantee. This will force the Business Seller to take at least part of the risk on financing.

Second, it appears that Bank of America and Citibank have both reined in their Lines of Credit, not only for Home Equity, but for some Business Lines of Credit, as well. (Remember that I have heard this from highly placed representatives in another Bank, but have not confirmed this with either of the two Banks named.) The Home Equity Loans affect a tremendous number of Small Businesses, because the Businesses themselves often do not have sufficient equity to provide security for Lines of Credit, on their own. Therefore, the Business Owner traditionally takes out a Home Equity Loan, or a Business Loan secured by his/her home, to secure the Line of Credit.

The reason these Banks have taken this action is largely due to the residential housing slump. If your Line of Credit was based on the value of your home - let's say your home was worth $300,000 when you initially set up the Line of Credit - it may be worth only about $240,000 in today's market, as far as the Bank in concerned. Therefore, there is far less security for the Bank, and so the Bank will refuse to lend on that basis.

Many Business Owners were not formally informed of this, and wrote checks from their Line of Credit accounts to the IRS to pay for their 2007 Taxes, only to find that the checks bounced! The Banks have not yet called in the loans, meaning they are not demanding immediate payment, but they are not honoring any withdrawals or extensions of credit, on this basis.

If you are one of the many Business Owners that has a Line of Credit, I would be extremely careful in calling my Bank, before writing any checks out of that account. Moreover, if you have already taken money out of that Line of Credit account, I would talk the situation over with your accountant. You may not want to pay that money back, any time soon. Pay the monthly interest or minimum payment, to be sure; but if you repay that money back in total, will you be able to rely on that account when you need it again?

Times are tough! As Small Business Owners, we can survive, and maybe even be stronger, as a result. (My philosophy is that crises breed opportunity!) But in order to survive, we have to anticipate and think ahead!

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Thank you for the info. Looks like more people will be further up the creek without paddles. Somebody needs to come up with a paddle delivery service.
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3 months ago
I really am not a big fan of the Small Business Administration (SBA) when it comes to its loan programs.

Here in the Twin Cities of MN is an offshoot of the SBA called Women Venture. A few years back I attended a meeting inwhich financing a Women Business Enterprise(WBE) was the topic. Long story short: Several courses were required before loan papers were submitted. Each course cost between $50 and $100. Unless the loan was needed to acquire raw materials, inventory, a building, or an existing business with all those "siezable" items, the limit was $2,500. Oooo, let's see: spend money out of pocket in order to acquire very limited funds? Don't think so!

Related to this topic are two items I plan to put in my July newsletter [advantageaccountingandtax.com]: 1) "Obama's Plan for Small Business;" and, 2) "U.S. Seeks $200M in Refunds for Credit-card Users."

Obama wants to "expand" the SBA's "loan and micro-loan programs which provide startup and long-term financing." Based on what BB1 posted, I don't think the bankers are on the same page as Obama!

As to the credit-card user refunds (and what samll business hasn't maxed the company credit cards?): "Federal regulators are asking for more than $200 million in refunds of fees and charges to consumers who were hurt by allegedly deceptive marketing practices for subprime credit cards." [MarketWatch, 6/11/08]

Who among us hasn't been offered the low low interest-rate credit card if we moved our balance from an existing card to the new one? Did you get the first statement and discovered that there was a charge for this and a fee for that? Umm-humm.

And I've had clients who shuffled money through a dozen different cards in a year just trying to take advantage of "zero interest" which is a falsehood in most cases. The interest was being accrued (put off till later), rather than non-existant, on a daily basis. So even when the balance was paid in full by the due date, at some point during the period charges were made and interest calculated on the charges. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is deceptive!

Then add to that the billable hours charged by us accountants to play what I call "chase the cash" as its shuffled through the various accounts, and you have costs that wouldn't have been incurred if the credit card offer had been ignored in the first place.

One final note about financing a business startup/acquisition/expansion: It is still being suggested that the equity in a home be used to finance business and that the interest is tax deductible. No its not! The IRS states that if an equity loan is used for anything other than to purchase or improve the primary home, mortgage interest can not be claimed as a deduction on Schedule A, Itemized Deductions. Just thought you'd like to know.



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3 months ago
MizPatti wrote a response to my "Borrowing for Small Business" posting that was well thought out and well written. It is well worth reading. Her response is typical of many people, who get frustrated by SBA programs. But the problem with the SBA loan system really is not the PROGRAM itself; it is the complexity of the variety of programs.

The one, particular situation she mentioned as causing her negative feelings toward the SBA is not one with which I am familiar. But typically, the loans with which I deal goes to a cap of $2 million, rather than the painfully lower level she described. And we get them through the system within 45 days, unless there is property involved. Then, because of EPA and Title issues, it can run to 90 days. People who says they waited for six (6) months to get a loan from the SBA were either not following directions, or they had a Bank or Broker that did not know what they are doing.

SBA is an exceptional way to go, and at times it is the only way to go. Most Banks will not do a Business Loan without benefit of SBA support, unless you are a GM or Ford type of company.

Moreover, MizPatti mentioned the SBA and the difficulties with the Banks virtually in the same breath. Please understand that the issues I was posting were two, different problems. They just happened to be voiced by the Bankers I was having coffee with, at the same time.

Obama's Small Business program does not run afoul of the issues I represented with the Banks. The Home Equity Loans are Bank programs, backed by Banks, and can be swept away solely by the Banks, regardless of what Obama may want to do.

The SBA is a Federally backed and operated system. When a Bank submits a loan for SBA support, it is the Bank that loans the money, with SBA supplying "insurance" for that loan, or a portion of that loan, should the business go into default. This is the program that Obama is talking about liberalizing.

And it is this kind of liberalization that can undoubtedly assist not only Small Business, but the economy in general, as it did in the 1980's when the recession of that time was alleviated, in part, by Small Business. To reduce the affect of SBA assistance, as is being proposed at this time, I personally believe will do radical harm to our already faltering economy. This is not a push for support for Obama - I will not get political here, one way or another - because his program has nothing to do with what is going on with SBA, now.

Finally, don't write off the SBA. It is definitely not for everyone. But without it, very little in the way of substantial Small Business start-ups and acquisitions would be possible.
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3 months ago
BB1, don't want to let this subject go because it is so very important to the future economy, as you aptly stated.

From what I was told by Women Venture, my loan availability is limited because other than office equipment I have no assets to offer as collateral. I sell service.

However, million-dollar loans are available to those who will or have assets that provide collateral - stuff like a factory/store, inventory, raw materials, etc.

Soooo . . . are you telling me that my understanding of the SBA loan program is incorrect? Someone like me, a service provider, COULD borrow - oh say - $5,000 for marketing?

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3 months ago
The SBA is fickle. I don't see anyone offering your $5,000 for marketing, through the SBA or virtually any other Lender. The number is too small, and it needs to be backed up by more than just marketing costs for an ongoing b=Business.

When you borrow, the Lender wants to know that you either have a GREAT concept, or a GREAT deal of momentum with which to work. (By momentum, I mean a concept that has a proven track record.)

Your better source may be your own Bank. I have been in business for about ten (10) years and last year I was able to obtain a Line of Credit from two (2) Banks. One was for $50,000 and the other was for $25,000. Only one (1)required a personal guarantee. As a Business Broker, I AM THE BUSINESS!!! I have no real assets other than my "rolodex" and my incredible skill. So, getting a loan predicated on fixed assets is not something I could deal with.

As for the SBA, I get loans for Buyers of Retail Businesses all the time. And Retail has no real Asset line either, except for the Inventory, which is not technically part of the Business Loan, itself.
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3 months ago
The banks won't give you a business loan if you own a website internet business. I was told that websites are not worth a penny.

I wonder if they turned Yahoo down when they first put up their website?

the jane
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3 months ago