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Zimbabwe.....emails from farmers

This is from my friend Ann in Zimbabwe......things are getting very difficult there. See first reply
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This is first hand news about what is starting to happen again in Zim. Please keep these poor people in your prayers, it will get worse the longer Mugabe delays releasing the results.

Carol

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Dear Carol
Hi
Just to let you know that Chris dIEDRICKS was invaded yesterday afternoon by war vets. I just happened to be visiting Charmaine and Chris when a bakkie load of about 23 drove up the road singing war songs. Chris went out to them and they told him to leave the farm immediately. The police arrived about 45 minutes after the war vets and spent a long time talking to them with Chris remaining calm and reasoning with the chaps. The whole episode took about 2.5 hours with Charmaine, Laura and I watching anxiously from Charmaine's house. I was so worried that they might beat Chris up as is so ! often their style. They left the property and have vowed to return today to "sort things out".

There was a carefully orchestrated war vet attack yesterday on the few remaining white owned farms in Masvingo. The farms that I know were invaded were the Goddards, Connors, Borland, Richards, Sparrows. The whole Pa Nyanda Lodge was taken over and Graham & Cally were given an hour to leave their house. They did so with a few photos and valuables but didn't even have time to pack a suitcase.

I will update you later as to what happens but surely, surely, the outside world cannot sit back and allow a repeat of 2002. There is huge military deployment as we speak and the people are becoming fearful.

Love to you all
Kerry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Clive and Liz Thomas [mailto:hupthomas@buzzbb.net]
Sent: 06 April 2008 04:33
Subject: Borland family under siege - Masvingo, Zimbabwe
Importance: High

If we just stand by, watch and do nothing - are we not just as much to blame
as those in power in Zim? All I am asking you to do is forward this email
to as many people, who have an interest in Zimbabwe, as possible. Send it
to the news makers in your area, plus SABC, BBC, CNN, Sky, Fox News, etc.
Thank you,

"Dear Family and Friends,
Well never thought I would have to do this email, do not know if it may be
my
last from Chidza Farm, Masvingo, Zimbabwe! .
At 3.30pm today (Saturday), a lorry load of warvets arrived at our gate to
take over our
land, equipment and cattle.
It is now 6pm and they have been singing their war songs at our gate and
more
and more of them have arrived.
We managed to get Alison (our daughter) and baby John to town and for now it
is just
John and myself and our dogs in the house, now on the farm.
They have said that our labour will not work tomorrow and that they want us
to
kill them a sheep, which John refuses to do, so no doubt they will kill one
for
themselves.

Graham Richards was under siege at the same time as us, so it has to be
orchestrated. The Goddards and Deidricks are in the same boat. They have
already
taken over PaNyanda Lodge, Graham and Callie Richards are in town.

Alison is at Lorna's in town and Carl is expected back from Bulawayo tonight!
an d
will go to Lorna.
Lorna's no. is 039-264323 ; Ali is on 011216643
Our Phone Landline is 039-266080
Cell Phone Nos. 011-215275 ; 023-258810

Please pass this email on to as many folk as you would like to.
If you know of anyone in the Media all the better.
We have to let the world know what is happening.

Well done to Zesa (the state electricity company). As they load shedded us
and I phoned my friend in the Zesa
Faults and he phoned Harare and they have switched us back on.

So for now please keep all of us in your prayers and we will send a follow
up
tomorrow if we are able.

Our love to you all.
John and Joy Borland from Chidza Farm."

From: Clive and Liz Thomas [mailto:hupthomas@buzzbb.net]
Sent: 06 April 2008 09:27
Subject: Update on farm situation in Masvingo, Zimbabwe.
Hi again,
I have spoken to my mum in Masvingo. She says that the war vets have told the family that there are to be 2 dead farmers in their province by Monday – one of them being my uncle John Borland.
She also said that another white farmer in the Masvingo district, Anthony Perkins, had been stoned by war vets on Saturday. He is alive but she does not know the seriousness of his injuries.

Please keep everyone in your thoughts and prayers.
Thanks,

Liz Thomas


Kind Regards
The eblockwatch team




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4 months ago
At one time, 28 years ago, Robert Mugabe was seen as a hero. England, once the ruling force in Zimbabwe, and America really want to see him ousted. The sanctions on the country don't help the people. Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai is being seen as soft right now for not bringing more pressure to bear on the results of the election being released. There is no trouble but in rural areas of the country...the populated areas are quiet. At the UN summit in N.Y. with the African leaders Zimbabwe wasn't even mentioned. There is a state of limbo that must be terrible for the people there. I remember how difficult it was for Americans to not know for a long time just who our president was.
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4 months ago
Its more than just the elections. Anns neighbours have been forced off their farm. They just come and take it over. They have been able to stay because its a dairy farm. They only have electricity for a few hours and so the refrigeration is very iffy. They still have to find ways to get the milk out. The shops are empty.....a newspaper costs a million dollars or some stupid amount. The money has no value. The go to South Africa for supplies when possible. Yes the town is somewhat safe and they have moved a lot of stuff to their home there....... why is this all being ignored in the world.
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4 months ago
I don’t share your belief in what is going on in Zimbabwe, Espirit. The land belongs to the Africans, not the European settlers that stole it from the Africans.

In order to understand my points of view it is important that you remember the history of Africa. In particular you must examine the driving force behind British colonial expansion in Africa. This expansion was the doing of Cecil Rhodes. In particular you must look at what one man, Mr. Rhodes, did and what one foreign government, England, supported and encouraged between 1871 and 1891. It is exactly what happened in the west when European settlers invaded the west.

Unlike the American Indian tribes the African tribes still want their land to remain theirs. They are against total European rule and want the farms, owned by mostly white outsiders, redistributed to the real owners of the lands…the native Zimbabweans. This is actually agreed to by England which still has a huge interest it the gold, copper, diamond, ivory and agriculture trades. It’s about the money and who controls it.

“Immediately after the election, in June 2000, Mugabe publishes a list of 804 large commercial farms (most, but not all, white-owned) which are to be appropriated by the state for the resettlement of peasants. He insists that compensation is the responsibility of the British government.
This is something which in principle is agreed in London, since it is widely recognized that the ancestors of the British farmers claimed dubious ownership over these lands a mere hundred years ago. On independence in 1980 there was an agreed scheme for compensation. It was discontinued by Britain in 1988 on the grounds that the benefit was accruing not to Zimbabwe's peasants but to the political elite (of 2000 farms acquired by the government in this way, 420 were transferred to the ownership of prominent ZANU-PF supporters).” Quoted from History of Zimbabwe

I I don’t share your belief in what is going on in Zimbabwe, Espirit. The land belongs to the Africans, not the European settlers that stole it from the Africans.

In order to understand my points of view it is important that you remember the history of Africa. In particular you must examine the driving force behind British colonial expansion in Africa. This expansion was the doing of Cecil Rhodes. In particular you must look at what one man, Mr. Rhodes, did and what one foreign government, England, supported and encouraged between 1871 and 1891. It is exactly what happened in the west when European settlers invaded the west.

Unlike the American Indian tribes the African tribes want their land to remain theirs. They are against total European rule and want the farms, owned by mostly white outsiders, redistributed to the real owners of the lands…the native Zimbabweans. This is actually agreed to by England which still has a huge interest it the gold, copper, diamond, ivory and agriculture trades. It’s about the money and who controls it.

“Immediately after the election, in June 2000, Mugabe publishes a list of 804 large commercial farms (most, but not all, white-owned) which are to be appropriated by the state for the resettlement of peasants. He insists that compensation is the responsibility of the British government.
This is something which in principle is agreed in London, since it is widely recognized that the ancestors of the British farmers claimed dubious ownership over these lands a mere hundred years ago. On independence in 1980 there was an agreed scheme for compensation. It was discontinued by Britain in 1988 on the grounds that the benefit was accruing not to Zimbabwe's peasants but to the political elite (of 2000 farms acquired by the government in this way, 420 were transferred to the ownership of prominent ZANU-PF supporters).”
Cite: History of Zimbabwe

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Eventually there will be an end to this. The Africans will be reduced to living on lands “given” to them by the English government. They will live as Native Westerners do. The native tribes of Africa are being trapped into accepting what a bigger, more politically powerful, England says their freedom is. Their land is being stolen from the natives.

England doesn’t own Africa and the elite rich should cede their land to the natives. The role of the U.N. and England, in particular, should be to see that the government of Zimbabwe equally distributes the land between the original inhabitants of the country. The possessors of the land, now, are squatters.

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4 months ago
Africa is expected to experience continued famine and collapse. view link:

In the case of Africa, alone it is estimated that by 2025 the continent’s available food resources will sustain only 25% of the population. More than 40% degradation of arable land has taken place over the past few decades, during which a combination of droughts, soil contamination and mismanagement has led to a structural crisis separate from the food crisis. Lately, some people are suggesting that alternate bio-fuel production is also competing for grains as a source of supply in the age of rocketing oil prices. Together, all these factors pushed wheat prices up 58% and soybean prices up 32% in the past year alone.


I don't believe that the world should be served up on a first come basis. OK, the following comments are meant sarcastically: view link: Aren't these the same people who sold their kinsmen into slavery in Haiti? Perhaps we should give Haiti back to a long gone Indian tribe. not sarcasm: They are already feeding their children mud cookies I don't have the words to express the concern I have for people who face life and death decisions every day. We must be there for these people.

In our time of unprecedented world population growth and migration, the people of African descent are still at risk because have a precarious heritage and terribly strained resources. Not only because of ancient European predation but, also rising world powers like China are now appearing. In a global world local dictators and hooligans have no ancient right to terrorize any more than the rest of the world has a right to ignore their need. There is plenty of blood on everyone's hands here. It's time to stop divvying guilt and have dinner.

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4 months ago
Before I knew Ann I would have been in complete agreement with you. I believe Africa should belong to the AFricans. Just as America should belong to the Indians............however in reality what has happened is the land that has been in the hands of white farmers for generations has been taken back and given back to the "locals" ......they have no education in the way of farming and so what was working, producing farms and farm land is now wastelands. This is a fact, not something I read but from people who live there. Neighbours of those who live there. So......unless the land is given over to native people who know how to work the farms then it makes no sense for the people or the community or the country. So...........Believe me, I know the history Trip....I have a very keen interest in Africa and its peoples. Part of my family went out to South Africa in the 1800s to work on the railways. Fought the Zulus. (shame) so........I am not talking about the past....we can not change that, but in this case handing over farms to be trashed as well as the people who work the farms then being homeless and jobless.....well. It makes no sense.
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4 months ago
The problem is that you support the invaders and discount the intelligence of the people who actually own the land. If I came to your home and threw you off your land because I thought your grass wasn't green enough you'd be very angry and would fight to get your land back. Besides, you avoid the original purpose of England wanting to "colonize" Africa. It was because of the riches there...the gold, diamonds, ivory and fertile soil. The "right" thing to do would have been to share the advanced knowledge of mining and farming with the natives instead of stealing their land from them. When America was invaded what happened to the native Americans is the same thing England and Cecil Rhodes tried to do to African tribes. They, the original Africans and true owners of the land, now have a chance to avoid having happened to them what happened to Native Americans. I'm rooting for them...they have every right to their native soil.

The land your friends live on doesn't belong to them. It never belonged, legally, to their ancestors. They should have to get off of it. I have no sympathy for them at all.
The take over of Zimbabwe began in the 15th. century. The illegal and immoral actions of Cecil Rhodes, cowardly encouraged by England, expedited the take illegal take over and the rich white people just want too ignore the wrongs.

Your views that the native people are too ignorant to farm the land is arrogant garbage. It is a poor excuse, used by your illegal immigrant friends, to keep what isn't, and never was, theirs.

I, too, have friends in Africa.

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4 months ago
I had family who emigrated there from the UK in the 60's when it was known as Rhodesia, a 'kinda' democracy - the 1/4 million whites got to vote and the 6 million blacks didn't - reminds me of Israel, if you're Jewish you vote and if you're not you don't. Apatheid has many faces.

The story is not much different than North America, where gun carrying whites took the land from the locals who were equipped with bow and arrows & spears; as both native groups had no written language, proving ownership of land was a bit of a joke.

My penniless relatvies moved onto Australia about ten years ago, and frankly, I have no sympathy for them

4 months ago
I understand what you are saying and yes I would normally agree with you. However.....what is happening is the land is being destroyed because the "native" people have not the background to farm it. So vast tracts of good land is not useless and the economy is gone. So.......would you rather see a thriving community where people have jobs or another Biafra when the whites leave. We can never turn back the clock. Injustice happened all over the world by white people, I agree and England is now reaping her rewards for that because she allowed them passports when the countries became independant.
I really do not appreciate my thoughts and fears for a friend whose family is in danger being called garbage.
Ann has relations is the USA and also South Africa and will go when they need to, but this has been home to them and they love the country. they do good things for the people there, they educate the workers children on the farm and take care of them. Still that is besides the point. It will not be in the best interests of Zimbabwe if they all leave.

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4 months ago
Espirit – You misquoted me. What I actually said was, “Your view that the native people are too ignorant to farm the land is arrogant garbage. It is a poor excuse, used by your illegal immigrant friends, to keep what isn't, and never was, theirs.”
You say, “I really do not appreciate my thoughts and fears for a friend whose family is in danger being called garbage.” I said your idea that black people are stupid was garbage.
It is a cop out to suggest that black African people can’t learn to run a farm. You are saying, outright, that white people are smarter than black people. You are wrong.
In America the settlers that first came understood about agriculture but Native Americans didn’t. The same is true about the Zimbabweans. The difference is that there are far more armed African natives with more than bows and arrows putting up a fight to stop the wrongs committed and to return the lands to their rightful owners.

Just like the Native Americans, the Zimbabweans had a great and productive culture were they thrived.
“The buildings of Great Zimbabwe are evidence of equally great labour. Massive stone walls enclose a palace complex with a great conical tower, while impressive dry-stone granite masonry is used in a fortress or acropolis at the top of a nearby hill. The buildings date from the 13th and 14th centuries, the peak of Great Zimbabwe's power.”
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They are a smart people that were simply not as knowledgeable as the invaders of their country because they had no need to be at that time. Zimbabweans didn’t see the greediness of their “helpers” who were only interested in the natural resources of the land. Your friend's ancestors mistook trust for ignorance. This trust by the natives, just as here in America the natives welcomed and trusted the settlers, allowed them to be hoodwinked by outsiders.
You say the clock cannot be turned back and you are right. The land can, however, be returned to its’ rightful owners so that history does not repeat itself and that is the important thing. Squatters will need to move. Such is life. Black people, like Native Americans, know how to farm now. England is trying to use the U.N. to control the native Zimbabweans. America is quietly trying to back England but realizes the way they treated the Native Americans was wrong and doesn’t want the world to see America as supporting a move that is wrong. Everyone knows that white men crushed the natives here and stole their land. That should never happen to anyone, in any country, again.

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4 months ago
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