Message 776 of 1758

YIKES!

I don’t know why this isn’t common knowledge, but it should be. Before you throw Sen. Clinton into purgatory, I am posting some information with links. The Obama campaign has claimed over and over that they do not accept lobbyists money. Oh really? The following is the information printed Saturday in the Austin American Statesman regarding ties to lobbyists, campaign advisers, etc. Read 'em and weep.

McCain:
Rick Davis, campaign manager, has represented GTech, Bell South, Airborne Express and Verizon. His last registered lobbying was in 2005.
Charlie Black, senior adviser, has represented a long line of corporate interests, including AT&T, Lockheed Martin and U.S. Airways.
Tom Loeffler, finance chairman, has represented AT&T and Bristol-Myers Squibb as well as EADS North America Inc., maker of the Airbus.

Clinton:
Harold Ickes Jr., chief of the superdelegate campaign, has recently represented the private trade group Alliance for Quality Nursing Home Care and the American Federation of Teachers.
Steve Ricchetti, deputy chief of staff, has a lobbying firm that has represented General Motors and Anheuser-Busch.
Tony Podesta, recent recruit for the Pennsylvania primary effort, has a firm that has lobbied for the biotech firm Amgen, Dow Chemical and Google.

Obama:
Steve Hildebrand, deputy campaign manager, gave up federal lobbying work for environmentalists to take the paid campaign post.
Moses Mercado, who oversees superdelegate recruitment, is with the K Street giant Ogilvy Government Relations and has represented Pfizer, the Carlyle Group and the Blackstone Group.
Tom Daschle, campaign adviser, advises clients of Alston & Bird on 'all matters of public policy,' particularly financial services, heath care, energy, telecommunications and taxes, according to the firm's Web site.

(Before you think you love Daschle, you should know that on February 13, 2006, Daschle became one of two Democrats (with Rep. Jane Harman of California) to endorse a controversial domestic surveillance program conducted under the authority of President George W. Bush by the NSA.)

I think that those who unwaveringly support Sen. Obama might well be served by looking at the means by which he achieved each all of the offices he has filled, including the Senate office he now holds. view link

It was Obama's alliance with the Carlyle group that made me do the research. The Carlyle group has found Iraq to be a very profitable endeavor. When he hitched his wagon to the Carlyle star, did Obama make himself unelectable? Even the Huffingtonpost is beginning to see the light. view link Let’s buy some superdelegates! view link I found the following informational. Sen. Obama has some questions to answer. view link Oh yeah…about that ban on lobbyists. view link

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What are you going to do? Liberty is an illusion. Kurt Vonnegut called it. I'm a wage-slave, owned by McDonalds-Walmart-Boeing. Vote for Nader?
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6 months ago
LOL rsb1953! Even Nadar isn't all that squeaky clean. Let's face it...to get that high up on the political ladder you do have to sell at least a little bit of your soul to the devil. ;-) Is this not the way of the world?

6 months ago
Argo and RSB... I agree. There is something a bit aberrant about a person who enters politics. Once you have reached this level of play, there are no illusions left about what one will or will not do to win. I am beginning to wonder if there is any room for success regardless of who wins the presidency. Of course, I want it to be a Democrat. McCain is still committed to another 95 years of war. Oh, he is such a hopeless optimist! Still, I am very concerned about the state of our country. We are in such bad shape, it seems that the next president is doomed even before the election. There is no magic wand to wave over the country and make things better. The moral and economic morass resulting from this Bush presidency is far worse than the one Bill Clinton inherited. Can either Democratic candidate slip into a phone booth and \transform into Super President? Oh that's right. They have eliminated phone booths.

I worry about the future of the Democratic party, not because of the prolonged nominating process. Now that we have gone this far, it seems unfair to not let everyone have a say in the decision. There are millions of voters who still have not participated in the primaries. My concerns are about public expectations. Almost immediately after they assumed office, people were moaning and groaning about the Democratic congressional majority and their failure to accomplish anything. We rational thinkers recognize that the Democratic majority was not great enough to prevail. Will this same unrealistic attitude dog the next president? Will it spell the end of Democratic leadership for another decade or so? Am I being pessimistic? I hope that I am wrong here....but I think we need a magic bullet, preferably not one supplied by Halliburton or Blackwater.

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6 months ago
SherriP, regarding your reply: I don't think you're being pessimistic. I, too, have concerns. If the Democrats manage to quit shooting themselves in the foot, and if they are victorious in November, people may expect instantaneous results.

Even within this group of fairly savvy political types, there has been dissatisfaction voiced in the lack of accomplishments by the so-called Democratic-majority in Congress. And that dissatisfaction doesn't seem to have been stemmed by posts pointing out that the Democrats have an insufficient majority in the House; and do NOT have a majority . . . at all . . . in the Senate.

I, for one, have mostly let go of the political scene. My primary vote was cast long ago. My general-election votes will go to the Democratic slate. Beyond that, it's all beyond my control.
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6 months ago
I now fully understand why Obama told Hillary that he does not care if she stays in the race or if she drops out. She is no longer a real threat to him that it makes perfect sense. By staying in the race Hillary can only hurt herself.

Granted neither candidate if perfect. However, the level of unethical things she has lowered herself down to to get attention is sad, it actually now works to Obama's advantage to have her stay in the race doing them people like him better because of Hillary's ultra negative garbage.

The Hillary oh poor pity for me. "The press is sexist... The press does not like me." The fact is “There are more negative stories about Hillary because there are more negative stories to tell." view link
The…, I was a sniper target lie... view link Oppps!

Hillary bashing Obama on all of the Pastor Wright videos, when she and Bill had him come to the Whitehouse for dinner. view link

The more Hillary whines about Michigan and Florida the more it works to Obama's advantage. view link
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Everything Hillary throws at Obama just bounces right back in her face. The thing that really bothers me is the more she show the world just how “Bush like” she is the more her core supporters actually rally around her? I don’t understand that at all. She is becoming everything they said they don’t what in a presidential candidate other than she is a woman. America wants a leader as president, a “Non Bush like” leader. The longer she stays in the race the more reasons she gives America to vote McCain or Obama, and they will.

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6 months ago
Actually time wise, the length of the race works in Sen. Clinton's favor. As Sen. Obama is an unknown, there is plenty to be uncovered. My interest was piqued when a) he declined to allow Florida and Michigan delegates to be seated and b) by the fact that Sen. Obama lost in Ohio and Michigan, states probably far more familiar with him than the nation in general. The means by which he obtained office seems rather contrary to the politics he professes. He stepped all over those who helped him in his early political career. He is a senator now merely by default. There was no contender until Alan Keyes stepped up and changed his residency to run as the Republican candidate. In reality, Sen. Obama eliminated contenders by throwing so much opposition up to the eligibility of the voters. That is not exactly the work of a man who professes to speak for the disenfranchised. This election is actually Sen. Obama's first real race.

If you care nothing for the future of the Democratic party, I don't think you have a real voice here. Rabble rousers....go to the back of the class.

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6 months ago
Carylye Group -- tell me more.

Then owned the company my son works for, and sold it. Then they bought the company my brother works for -- they are in the process of "outsourcing" the jobs .... and not to anywhere in the USA.

Anything you have on Carlye group I would appreciate. And Obama says these companies should pay for sending jobs overseas?

Carlye is a super-shark gobbling the shrinking balance of American companies!

Of course, under the umbrella of "turning them around."
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6 months ago
I know very little about the Carlye group, but let me add my support for Hilary. Obama is gifted at talking the talk, but Clinton actually walks the walk!! Link is from Newsweek debunking all the false claim emails on Hilary.
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6 months ago
NPR reports that the Carlyle Group consists of major investors like George H W Bush and his henchman James Baker as well as the Bin Laden family. Something smells rotten in Denmark
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6 months ago
There is too much information on the Carlyle group to list all of it. I found this article to be of interest...particularly in light of yesterday's announced circumventing of federal law regarding the border fence.
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6 months ago
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