Message 4 of 190

What Have We Lost?

Sitting here with my mega-mug of coffee before launching myself into my day, I checked out my Eons groups - two of which disappeared Eons-space in the last month. And I recalled with some sadness how, a year ago, this same set of actions was far from the somewhat dreary obligation it is today.

Can anyone put their finger on what happened? Was it, at least here in The Agora, simply one of those unpredictable concatenations of lively minds, curiosity, and a bit of time to interact? I remember the fierce chemistry between Sebastian and Proscyon creating some incredible discussion topics - yeah, some missed the mark, some left me cold, but interestingly the ones that left me cold lit a fire under other group members and just took off.

The time I'm thinking about corresponds chronologically to last spring into early summer. What ended that period was, for me, a series of real-life events that had a cumulative overwhelming effect and I needed to withdraw and replenish my resources for a while. What ended that period for others, I believe, was Eons's business restructuring followed by its bimonthly change in strategic focus that left its members at best confused, at worst with a sense of betrayal and distrust that still remains.

I see this to an extent in my other groups, "to an extent" because members weren't as fully engaged intellectually to begin with. But geez, to wake up to a message topic, "Suzi Goes to an A Capella Concert" REALLY makes me wonder if Eons is worth the effort any more.

Thoughts, anyone?

Zaftig Babe

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such tzorres over electronics? i am not sure of your message i have always enjoyed most ofthe groups i belonged to when i begin to feel (example 1 was too crazy i left, another like most group dynamics they live they die i move on. i do try to to be an active member in whattever group i am with i also realize that i am neither witty nor politic so my expectation are not lofty.
yichel So who sings acapella?
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8 months ago
A combination of things has taken the bloom off the rose. It takes more than two to have a group discussion. With two, it is just an argument--however civil. Several people imbued with the capacity for critical thinking (as well as the inclination) are needed to have a meaningful discussion.
My role, as I see it, is to moderate. There are plenty of things in which I am interested but if no one else is, nor responds to those things, it is just a blog. I have no interest in pontificating--unless of course there is some stiff opposition. ;-)

Eons, not content to let things be, felt the need to revamp, rearrange, and referee in groups. That turned some people off; drew others into the melee; silenced those baffled by the whole thing.

Running a group, I have discovered, is not an easy thing. Most people do not bother to post unless it is in response to something. (Except, of course, for those with agendas to flog or axes to grind or who just want attention.) But picking a subject likely to interest others and then asking the right questions to draw a response, without asking leading questions or rhetorical ones, is difficult. In other groups I am in, the wrong questions are asked about a topic. Sometimes I venture forth and just change the subject while still staying near the topic.

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8 months ago
I'm one of those folks who is more of a reactor than instigator of posts, usually starting my on comments with a...

Quote: Most people do not bother to post unless it is in response to something.

Eons has changed over time, sometimes according to plan, sometimes in reaction to it. But the experience of being here has been good for me. This is the only place I blog and that has made me take writing more seriously. And of all the place I've been in Eons, this is one is special: a place to think outside my own box and see what other folks have in theirs. I'll try to shake a few things out of my box on to the table now and then to keep us conversing like the good neighbors we are. Maybe I should go put my sweater back on.

Pressly
It's a beautiful evening in our neighborhood, now that the tornado watch has ended (Seriously!)

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8 months ago
Maybe we can discuss why most people REACT rather than ACT? And why, in many cases, that is not the best policy.

I know that many of us have thoughts in our heads. Not original thoughts as there is nothing new under the sun. But thoughts nonetheless that may be merely reactions to something we have seen, read, heard, or experienced. Are we afraid to have them challenged? Is it too much work to argue our positions or opinions?

Is it just too hard discuss ideas rather than events or people? Do we buy into the notion that discussing an idea necessitates choosing a side in advance?
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8 months ago
One of the things I cherished about this group when I first joined was the way it forced me to dust off those skills of critical thinking and work to create logically sound arguments. Yes - The Agora filled a need in me, so it was what what the PBS tele-gurus would call synchronicity.

Sebastian is right - a heady discussion by one person is a blog. Maybe we've lost our critical mass of articulate, opinionated, intelligent people with slightly off-kilter perspectives. Maybe that will come again. I was about to write, "For myself, I don't have the luxury of the time that I had a year ago to devote to The Agora," but I realized that I was deluding myself. For the luxury of heady intellectual stim, I'd drop or rearrange nearly everything short of the most basic personal hygiene.

Zaftig Babe

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8 months ago
Excuses of not having time will not stand. There is no immediacy required in answering posts. Certainly none in making them. The Agora exists in, and runs on, its own time. There are no rules about who must post, when, or how often. If anyone has a idea, let's have it. A well-crafted and well-thought out response to a post from last year is just as welcomed as anything. We are not a current events group. We are an ideas group. If the latest Britney Spear's peccadillo brings to your mind something symptomatic of the downfall of Western civilization, then let's discuss that symptom (rather than the peccadillo.)
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8 months ago