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Obama thrashes Clinton in SC

Winning easily, Obama puts a notch in his belt in the first showdown in a southern state. Is he the superior candidate and the Dems in South Carolina simply wise....or wisely simple? Was it due to a big Black turnout to support the brother? Was it due to the ingrained misogynistic social order of the south? Was it Diebold?

"A Clinton campaign memo Saturday said the race would swiftly shift to other state contests after South Carolina, and Bill Clinton had previously suggested that Obama’s race would favor him in the Palmetto State over Hillary Clinton’s gender."

Any thoughts?
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Obama won without a president backing him. More like a former president bashing him
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7 months ago
As for thoughts: No comment.

I, for one, am too busy dancing inside.
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7 months ago
Clinton camp had expected this outcome, no surprise! Black voter turnout for Obama was expected....no surprise here.
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7 months ago
Upset of todays out come I am a Hillary person, and a few days ago on NPR some rich black college women said that they would vote for Hilary what happened? Sadly they still followed behind a guy to lead them.

every woman should read Black Macho and the myth of the super woman by Michele Wallace in Librarys or Borders. I f Hillary does not become the Dem leader I quit

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7 months ago
I honestly believe that Obama and Hillary probably liked and respected each other before the media..Fox and CNN...(mainly Fox) pitted them against each other hour after hour, city after city, day after day.

I wonder if they could work together after all of this is over and resolved. They have such similar platforms but the press is determinded to stir up quarrels and anger so that they are constantly on the defense. Fox works hard at making Hillary look like a "fishwife." I think Dick Morris stays up nights planning new attacks and then Bill O'Reilly and Sean hannity take turns having him as their knowledgeable "guest analyst". What a crock!

I would hope that if I were running for something my mate would campaign for me. And this is a first time deal...women, former president as her mate...come on. Everything that transpires will be a first time out for both candidates and the USA...a virgin campaign.

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7 months ago
I'm with MsTick1. As an Obama supporter, I am too busy dancing inside.


7 months ago
From Politico.com view link

Clinton saw himself transformed from Democratic elder statesman to polarizing attack dog, at least in the eyes of Obama's supporters, who booed him when his image came onto the screen at Obama's victory party in Columbia.

About 6 in 10 voters said Bill Clinton's campaigning was important in how they decided to vote - and only 37 percent of those backed his wife, according to the exit polls.

"This was a strong repudiation of the tactics that were employed here," said Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, soon after the television networks called the primary for Obama moments after polls closed at 7:00 p.m.

The election was, in fact, racially polarized: John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, won the white vote, getting 39% of it - but slid into third place because he finished with just 1% of the black vote. Clinton won 36% of the white vote.



7 months ago
I stopped dancing long enough to read the Obama endorsement by Caroline Kennedy. The following paragraph from her Op-ed piece in the NY Times beautifully encapsulates my own feelings/thoughts:

“I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved.”

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7 months ago
Yes, I think all were expecting Obama to take this one; no real surprises there. And I agree that the media creates the majority of the so-called news; but unlike the media who expect an instant answer for the cause of an actors' death, and an instant answer to why a plane crashed, or make dramatically premature proclamations identifying the ultimate Presidential contenders, I prefer to wait for answers based in fact. We've got a ways to go yet.

As for articulating - that is definitely Obamas' specialty; of course, actors do that well also. Shall we discuss Reagan? I'm much more interested in Presidential material, and am expecting (and hoping for) Hillary to dominate most of the races. And may I remind others that Obamas' wife (another strong, intelligent woman) is out there stumping for her spouse, so why is Bill a dirty rotten so-and-so for doing the same? They all play politics, and if you think Obama doesn't you've got your eyes closed.

I was thrilled to have a brilliant woman supporting President Clinton when he was in office; and I will be just as thrilled to have a brilliant man supporting the new President Clinton. However, either Hillary or Obama would be acceptable Presidents; especially in comparison to our current horror. And if Michelle Obama ends up being First Lady, I'd be willing to bet that she would be much more like Hillary than Mrs. Cleaver - I mean Bush.

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7 months ago
In 1992, I favored either Tom Harkin of Iowa or Bob Kerry of Nebraska because they were liberal, and Bill Clinton is a conservative. Basically, I have been wishing for a good liberal candidate since 1980. This year we have three.
An embarrassment of riches.
When it rains, it pours.
A stitch in time saves . . .
Whoa! I got carried away there.
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7 months ago
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