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Time to vote these folks out of office........

This is going to be a protracted ugly fight.

The Dems and the President will be willfully violating the Constitution. "Deemed passed" isn't in the Constitution...see below... (not to mention any 'right' to healthcare, not to mention any power of the federal government to require a citizen to purchase anything).

The Democratic Party is already coaching their members to speak to the 'benefits' of the legislation and not address the process.

The Constitution says:

"Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law.

I am going to enjoy casting a vote in the 2010 and 2012 elections. We've got to stop this lunacy.

Well they did get it passed in the Senate with 60 votes to 40 votes. give 'em SOME credit for that! that is what elections are for !!!!

Dont we get ANY credit for the Senate passinfg it by a 60 to 40 vote super majority ? We need a structure to give medicare a chance from going broke.

No, you get no credit for supporting idiocy. Obama's, Pelosi's, & Reid's proposals will not fix the problems but only aggravate them by overwhelming our health care system, cutting medicare (without addressing fraud, abuse and mismanagement), by increasing taxes on everyone, and by increasing our national debt to a point where it will be unmanageable. But the left has jumped into bed with a prostitute and once smitten they are unable to extricate themselves from their addiction. If any on the left need help with that analogy...well, I won't be surprised.

A majority now believes that the Health Care should not be passed. A majority now also believes that "climate" change studies are less than solid.

Many in the same majority that did vote for Obama CHANGED THEIR MINDS when they saw that his PROMISES WERE JUST PROMISES.

Many in the same majority that did vote for Obama now see that they are WORSE OFF under the current Administration and the President is doing anything BUT what a majority needs and wants now: JOBS, JOBS...

A majority wants government to STOP INCREASING SPENDING at taxpayers expense...producing NOTHING except benefits for government and unions...
Health Care, Cap and Trade, Fighting Obesity, Giving Speeches all the time at taxpayers expense CAN WAIT.

Looks like this is the democratic plan. By not voting on the senate bill, the house democrats will claim that they did not really vote on that bill and claim innocents. What a corrupt government we have in place right now. Nixon move over, you were a piker compared with this bunch.

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The Maryland Democrat [Rep Hoyer] also said the public didn't care about process but about results, and that the approach Democrats are weighing would result in enactment of President Barack Obama's landmark legislation to extend coverage to tens of millions of uninsured and create new insurance market protections for nearly everybody else.

At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs refused to say whether Obama supported the maneuver. Gibbs repeatedly returned to the notion of a vote during his daily meeting with reporters.

"There's going to be a vote on health care reform. You're going to know where people are on health care," Gibbs said.

He would not, however, say whether he wanted the House to vote on the bill or whether he would accept the House Democrats' legislative proposal.

With the House aiming to cast the decisive votes by the weekend, Republicans ramped up their attacks, seizing on the approach under consideration in the House to criticize Democrats and try to sow doubts among wavering moderates. The GOP is unanimously opposed.

"Anyone who endorses this strategy will be forever remembered for trying to claim they didn't vote for something they did," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said Tuesday. "It will go down as one of the most extraordinary legislative sleights of hand in history."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to shield lawmakers from having to vote directly on the Senate-passed health care bill because it's unpopular with House Democrats.

"Nobody wanted to vote for the Senate bill," Pelosi, D-Calif., explained in a round-table meeting with liberal bloggers Monday.

I would like to hear from some of the liberals in this group - does the means justify the ends? - is it really true that people don't care how it gets done, just that it gets done? Are trickery and bribes by the democrats to change one sixth of our economy justified because they want to create a legacy for Obama?

If they had the votes they'd have an up or down vote. They DON"T have the votes. The people are against the bill, they had to give sweetheart deals to sneak this through on christmas eve, they have NOT been transparent, they have blue dog democrats, pro life democrats, and fiscal conservative dems against the bill, and they don't have the votes!!!!! What to do? Ram it through without a vote. To hell with the Republicans, to hell with some Democrats, and to hell with the public. What an arogant attitude.

From everything I have read, this 'non-vote' vote, known as the self executing rule, was first used in 1933 and was commonly used by the Republicans in 2001 and 2003 to pass the Bush tax cuts. It is sad to find out that this is how our democracy works. Our political system is broken.