From an old book, I had heard that the Mediterranean had quickly flooded to its current size towards the end of the last glacial period (the Dryas, old or younger) that ended around 9,860 BC and drove out previous cultivators of the region. "The Outline of History", two volumes, remarkably was written by H.G.Wells, more known for his science fiction. Though it first came out just after WWI, it was re-edited repeatedly up to 1969 well after his death. Obviously lacking in knowledge of more modern techniques of science and typically talking of the races of mankind in terms a bit suggestive of later Nazis that might make people uneasy in this world of political correctness, he nevertheless incorporated a lot of details and believable histories not compactly found in other publications that tend to lend some credibility to his brief version of the lost Meditterranean valley, its two sea basins where the Adriatic and Red were rivers, not seas, and its primitive Azilian culture before the refilling. It makes for interesting reading and I got it for $0.50 a volume in a garage sale. Can't be beat.
posted by mate0
over 2 years ago
Sounds like reading H.G. Wells makes for an unusual study.
Can you imagine the sight and sound of this water rushing in?
I have found this area facinating the Mediterranean is pretty much a closed sea. it opens into the black sea a small opening at Gilbrata into the Atlantic and the african plate moving northward into the Euro- asian plate(producing the Alps) it is basically landlocked. yrt when the continents were separating there was an ocean, theytis ocean (named after greek sea goddes) this ocean was on the other side o the levant I always figured that this ocean split during the dvide with its water going into the back then lower elevation Mediterranean area to make the sea and most of it other content becoming the Indian Ocean (the other side of Africa,
posted by yichel
over 2 years ago
I thought the comments quite interesting as the pooh pahs were deleted quickly without explanation. Guess it got personal very quickly? Don't know why it would.
Could "The Great Flood of Noah" ..."the destroying of the Egyptian Army chasing Moses across the Red Sea" ... and other disasters recorded in the Bible be but a barbarians folk tale of this massive inundation? Or did the exposive power of Atlantis cause the tidal wave that snuffed out so many lives?
My time lines are ignorant. Anyone have anything to say about all this stuff? Just wonderin.....
posted by JwB58
over 2 years ago
JB: Undersea explorations indicate that Noah's flood could have corresponded to the sudden increase in the size of the Black Sea when the Bosphorus 'dike' burst wiping out coastal towns and possible outward flooding towards Mesopotamia. The Red Sea phenomenon, timewise, would have corresponded to the Santorini eruption that destroyed the Minoan civilization. I think that the Atlantis event would have been a collage of different ones including Santorini. Just a couple of hundred of years before Plato, in the strait separating Peloponnesia (that included Sparta) from the Greek mainland, a town was discovered that was sunk by an earthquake and tidal wave that caused liquefacation of its foundation. That would have been within Plato's peers' written records. Plus, Plato was an imaginative fellow as opposed to his stricter mentor, Socrates.
posted by mate0
over 2 years ago
Hang on mate....If this guargantuan event happened within Platos' era why is there conjecture about his writings? You said Plato was an imaginative fellow and perhaps lent himself to guessing about stuff that was of sooooo much importance but how could anyone 'guess' about the wiping out of an entire civilization? Something is not quite right here. I don't know what it is and I'm open to conjecture but something here just doesn't quite wash. Anyone lend any light on the subject?
posted by JwB58
over 2 years ago
Perhaps I should read the Works of Plato and decide for myself what was his truth and what was bullshit.
posted by JwB58
over 2 years ago
I am pretty sure noah flood can br placed under mythos. but maybe they back thenneeded some to explain thins like the Med or black/red sea? we are not doing such a good job of it and think of all the education and information available we have.
posted by yichel
over 2 years ago
I agree yichel. It pisses me off no one during those times thought about recording anything within a factual, non religious framework. Everything we know is guised within a barbarians outlook with gods and demons trying to conquer the world with floods, tempests and raging plagues.
posted by JwB58
over 2 years ago