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You have to get to first base before you can win the game! The conservatives have kept us at #37 in health care ranking forever! This is the first time since Roosevelt that we've been this close to getting somewhere on this. Once we get the insurance companies off our backs we can make the necessary changes along the way.

I urge you to read the actual text under discussion before forumlating an opinion favorable or not.

There are several versions of health bill and nothing is final. I could find no 2713 in the Senate version.

As to the house version, it's all about interpretation. This is the passage of section 2713 I think you refer to:

"—A group health plan and a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall provide coverage for and shall not impose any cost sharing requirements for—
(1) evidence-based items or services that have in effect a rating of ‘A’ or ‘B’ in the current recommendations of the United States Preventive Services Task Force. . . . "

I read that as a minimum requirement for coverage, without imposing a co-pay. That is a far cry from the interpretation propounded by the right, that section 2713 establishes some rationing guides. The reaonable interpretation leaves room for insurance companies to cover additonal services, e.g., annual manmagrams, but could impose a co-pay.

The section in question is Sec. 2713 Coverage of Preventative Health Care. It relys on the Preventative Healthcare Task Force who recommended that Mammograms not be covered before age 50 for women and recommends that PAS test for prostate cancer not be covered at all.

Is this the kind of sell-out you want? How many lives would be lost each year if this is allowed to stand while we wait and try to "adjust" or "correct" the law later. Let's get it right the first time.

Media Matters says this simply is not true. IN a complex bill like this, misunderstandings are easy. This news first appeared in the New York Post, not exactly a paragon of accuracy. Here is the link to the media matters article:

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Picguy-- I gave you the ACTUAL wording. Whho you gonna believe, the tea baggers kor your own eyes?

My wife died three years ago from breast cancer. There is no one more concerned about this issue than I am. I also know how to read and think for myself. I'll go with the actual wording of the bill, not the bogus interpretation of a bunch of fruit cakes.

Picguy, as a breast cancer survivor, thus far, I resent anyone using fear rather than facts to influence cancer victims and their families. Shame on you!

Back when I had my surgery, the drive through mastectomy was the "norm" (rationing by the god almighty health care industry). Just before I was to be released from my twenty-three hour stay at a "surgeical center" I began to bleed out and the crash cart was called! Thankfully, the hospital was just across the street. I had to undergo a second surgery to stop the bleeding that likely saved my life!

TRUTH is hard to come-by these days. Everyone wants to tell you what they read or heard. Most of the time niether is based on fact.

Picguy, I hear your concerns and can only recommend that you seek some sites, like Political Facts Check, they separate truth from fiction.

And like someone else said...if we clamor over each line item, it will be another 40 years before ANYTHING is done. That's a choice too.

Certain recent reports have again pointed out the high percentage of health care expenditures that occur during the last month of few months of a person’t life. Some of the expenditures have been downright obscene. Granted, costs during that period are always going to be high, but there is also much potential for savings. Perhaps that, and fraud, should be the focus for savings, not the much lower costs of the various tests earlier in life that can actually save lives.

Isn't it interesting that we are even having this discussion. Why is it that this major issue was never discussed during the 8 years of the Bush administration.

I support the President I voted for and will continue to do so, not out of blind loyalty but because I believe after seeing his own mother die he has a keen understanding of the issues that impact women and what it means to have to be dragged through the insurance nightmare.