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What does it mean .......

to "call yourself a black man". I'm trying to figure out exactly what Jessie "Rainbow Coalition" Jackson could have meant by using this phrase at all. The fact that he's already backtracking is proof that he has seen the error in his choice of words.

My question is mainly this: Who would/should be offended by this? especially when we consider the source...Davis wasn't. I saw a picture of Davis and he's at least as black as I am.
:-)

Is Jessie implying that there is something wrong with those who are not black men? I have a very close male friend who believes that black women are the source of all that is good with the world (even though he treats us like candy with a sign over it that says "Free! Take all you can eat!", he's still my friend.) Is this the kind of belief that Jessie is expressing? This double-minded messiness?

I have to say that it really made me laugh at the irony of him using the word "black" in a manner that appears to elevate the man who is "worthy" to call himself black. The irony is even reflected in the name of this group which mirrors the desires of some who consider black to be a derogatory label for those of us who are descendents of the slaves. Jessie's statement seems to magnify that debate that seeks to label us correctly, while he, at the same moment, turns it upside down. :-)

Rev. Jesse Jackson injects race into healthcare debate with Davis comments
Click here to read Jessie's statement at TheHill.com Click here to read about Jessie's attempt to change the meaning of his words. pitiful.
Isn't American English wonderful in that it can be molded to fit any occassion? LOL!

Frankly, this reveals more about the fractrured state of the black community than it does about anything else...a house divided.
chngdbyluv's profile
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Jesse Jackson is irrelevant in today's context,
obamamama's profile

over 2 years ago
C'mon now, that's too convenient. :-) Does this mean you don't know what it means either?

BTW: I know a "few" people who think he is not only relevant, but that he speaks for them as black Americans. I believe I have heard excuses for him offered by some of our group members here. Are these people irrelevant, too?

If Jackson says Davis is unworthy of calling himself a black man, there are many who will believe what he says as if it were the gospel. Their reason is that it's just because what they have always done is believe everything he says is gospel. I imagine this is even true of those who would admit it's not clear exactly what it is that he means. :-)
chngdbyluv's profile

over 2 years ago
Why worry about what Jesse thinks?
obamamama's profile

over 2 years ago
I'm asking what you think. :-)
chngdbyluv's profile

over 2 years ago
Chngdbyluv, You ask questions so very well!:) I'm very proud of you. Have faith in you.
Augrose109's profile

over 2 years ago
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I think Jesse doesn't make much sense these days. I'm not alone: view link view link view link etc, etc
obamamama's profile

over 2 years ago
"Frankly, this reveals more about the fractrured state of the black community than it does about anything else...a house divided."

I confess I don't get statements of this nature. Is it not possible for two black people to have opposing opinions without it evidencing some defect in the black community, White folks are conservative, liberal, moderate, gay, straight, bi, but no one ever decries the fractured state of the white community. I don;t like Jackson, never have, but do appreciate his role in the civil rights movement. Even Jesse Jr acknowledged his dad is an anachronism view link
obamamama's profile

over 2 years ago
Rev. Jackson will never be irrelevant, no matter what he has said or done. He is one of the people who laid their life on the line for his people. He stems from an era in which being “Black” was much more than a notion. It was in itself a moment. Although Rev. King, he mentor base himself in peace, it was Rev. Jackson (and others) ability to encompass every kind of action, that help push forward the rights we enjoy today. So he will never be irrelevant. In those days, all of the different organizations/moments did not agree, in so many areas except one, rights for people of color. Back in those days you could be three things “Black”, “Uncle Tom” and well I won’t go into the third. To be “Black”, meant in some idealist terms, to be for the oppressed, for the needs of the people. Not “Black” enough meant you were an Uncle Tom, sell out, House N, and so on. This is the place where, in reading the article Rev. Jackson is coming from. What I find unfortunate, is that he felt the need to dial it back. What he said was the truth, in the words of his generation. So what was the problem?
Let face it Rep. Artur Davis, and many like him, are opportunist, his record speaks for itself. He wants to make history, no matter who it hurts. So he panders to the Whites right wing base in Alabama. His statement tells it all: “Rev. Jackson is entitled to his opinion; the voters are entitled to a governor who represents everyone in the state. They're not looking for someone who speaks for a single community. He added, "His judgment is through the prism of race." No, his and a lot of Dem are questioning your race prism judgment. His state is one of the poorest in the union, with poor health care, poor education, and every bill put before him that serve to improve this state, he votes No. uhmmmmmmmm, I would make you wonder

I truly dispraise this new era of PC, it is worse than it has ever been. Strong options from the left, are consider inappropriate, need to be retracted or redacted. However the Neo-cons can say and do whatever they want. Why?

Frankly, this doesn’t reveals more about the fracture in black community. It doesn’t reveal anything, except our inability to recognize greed, ambition, self interest in our leaders. And when they are called out, we run and hide in the nearest retraction closet we can find.
rwilliery's profile

over 2 years ago
I truly dispraise this new era of PC, it is worse than it has ever been. Strong options from the left, are consider inappropriate, need to be retracted or redacted. However the Neo-cons can say and do whatever they want. Why?

This is REALLY funny! Especially since liberals are the authors of Political Correctness.
chngdbyluv's profile

over 2 years ago
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