Message 4441 of 4910

sucking the life out of me

Hi friends, I'm new here. Pardon me a much-needed vent. First of all thank you for all the messages, questions, and stories you've posted.

My 20 year old daughter is an addict. At present, she is a "roxy" addict that shoots up. This time last year her drinking became out of control and she wrecked her SUV and was charged with DUI. Everyone who knew her said, "Wow, I can't believe it. Well, this will straighten her out for sure." I thought, "no ..."

Not even a month later, she was arrested again for driving her "temporary" boyfriend's car because he had surgery and was on pain meds. Booked in for Driving on Suspended License. A few months later she almost went to jail (she was cited for Possession of a Minor). She was in the back seat of a car being driven by a DUI driver (.20) headed for a curvy mountain road when they were pulled over at 3 am. At that point, I got my head out of the sand and we found her a rehab out of state. She went there last June and stayed until late July, but was emphatic about moving into a sober living residence so she could stay in her rehab IOP, attend meetings, keep her support system, and begin to work part-time. Why would I mess with what was working? wrong ...

She came home briefly to visit late in October, attended meetings while home, and sat thru her younger 15 yr old brother's football games to support him. She returned to FL. I woke up one morning and just had this terrible feeling something was wrong. She assured me everything's good. A few days later I received a phone call from a stranger that picked up her phone and found "mom's" number. He said that she was in an ambulance headed to the hospital ... that she had overdosed. Thank goodness she was with someone who wasn't a drug addict and had the sense to call 911. He didn't even know she was on drugs. He went to check on her when she went to the bathroom. He said she didn't even get the light turned on, just passed out on the floor. Said her feet were blue and her hands were turning funny colors. Apparently she had new roomates at sober living that taught her a new trick. I'm sure she would've tried it sooner or later anyway.

I got down there in a few hours, got her, and brought her back home. Bet you guys can relate to 2 weeks of hell? It's like, what do you do with a child that you feel like you're rescuing from "rehab?" Not only that, while she laid in an ambulance, her roommate at sober living stole my credit card and her cell phone. To her credit, she had my card for emergencies only and hadn't used it at all. But her roommate went on a shopping spree.

I'm from a large family, with several in the medical field, who coincidentally are all recovering addicts. We all met and had a "post-intervention" laying out rules, expectations, etc. Since that time, I've taken her to an addiction counselor who coordinated with a Dr. about changing her anti-depressant, and they prescribed some Vistaril to help with withdrawals. She has gone to exercise every morning, and is generally cooperative in nature, but she has had major wigouts.

Where we're at ... like someone on here said, there's a difference in getting clean and staying clean.

Backing up, my daughter was a straight A classic overachiever, homecoming queen, high school basketball star holding school records, etc. She signed a full basketball college scholarship about 3 weeks before my husband, who coached her since she was little (basketball was their thing) fell ill and died unexpectedly. At the time, he was coaching her and some local players on a travel team, just helping our daughter get ready to play in college. His death rocked the whole community, and she seemed to be fine for a while, you know, taking care of the rest of us, but over time, thinking back, she was becoming depressed (sleeping all day, etc.) I thought once she went off to school a few months later and got into a routine, she would be fine because playing college ball was all she ever wanted to do. Not so ... she quit and came home after one semester. Said her heart just wasn't in it anymore.

She enrolled in local community college and there she began feeling like a failure and having an "I don't care" attitude about life. Don't think I didn't try and take her to grief counselors, a Dr. prescribed an anti-depressant, but it seemed the wheels were in motion and on top of that now I was parenting alone.

Anyway, here we are, 2 1/2 years after his death. I don't feel like I've even been able to stop and grieve. It's all been about ministering to my daughter. She has an older brother and a younger brother. I worry now about the impact on my younger son. When she's home, I cannot focus on my job or my son adequately. It really sucks the life out of me. I know I have to get to a place of detachment in a sense or I'm not going to make it. It would make things easier if she would just be nice to me. I'm not giving her any money, she has no car, I do pay for what she needs and take her where she needs to go. She is doing odd jobs helping different family members out. My SIL is teaching her to cook a few things, etc. She has 2 cousins about the same age, both of which I'm sure party some, but it scared the life out of both of them and they have been great at realizing the seriousness and not believing any of her BS anymore.

If my family had not put up a united front (most of us live right around each other), I wouldn't have even made these two weeks. Prior to this time, I've tried to handle it ALL on my own (pride?) but it's so much bigger than me.

She has started attending church with me again, but I know for now she's going thru the motions. Despite what I read about the fact that SHE should be the one praying to God, I've rededicated myself to spending quality time with God every single day and praying for THAT day alone. She was brought up in church, but it seems that since she's a drug addict, her morals and judgment have dramatically changed.(to say the least) Things that just aren't ok are fine with her.

Ok, sorry so long and thanks for the rant. I don't want to lose my daughter. She is beautiful, intelligent, and could be anything she wanted to be. Like your children, she's wasting a chance at life just to do drugs. She had only been shooting up a few days when she overdosed. The first time she drank she blacked out. She has no stopping sense at all. If she continues to use I have no doubt she will die. I just can't believe how my family has fallen apart so quickly.

I just feel so dumb for sitting thru all her activities over the years and thinking to myself how everyone must just think my daughter is terrific, and they pretty much did. For that reason alone, she has been given so many "breaks," even in the court system (I used to be a probation officer) by people thinking she would straighten up if given another opportunity. Drugs really are satan. Now I hate running into people because they never ask about my sons, only my daughter. How's she doing, where's she playing ball now, when's she coming home, what's she majoring in? You get what I mean.
widowmom's profile
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Dear Mom:

You've been reading our stories...so you know that we have all been through what you are going through. The shock and horror of discovering our sweet, talented, intelligent babies are actually poisoning themselves is beyond words. I am so glad that you have such a great support system. It will really help you to listen to them so that you can cut through her BS, addicts have a whole different set of rules and standards. They do love us. Even when they are so awful to us. What they don't do, is love themselves. The other night on TV I heard a recovering addict (sober for 20+ years) say that it had taken him this long to get over the self loathing because of all that he had done. During the time that my son was truly in recovery, living in sober living, attending meetings, having a sponsor, working the program, he told me that this was the most difficult barrier to his staying clean. The knowledge of how he had hurt us all.

Please come to us and rant all that you need. We will be here. This group has given me hope for a normal (whatever that is...lol) life for the first time in six years. This has come through some really difficult decisions that I had to make....when I was ready to make them....and changes in how I perceived my life, my mothering.....when I was ready to make them. Don't feel alone. And don't feel foolish. You are finding your way through a most difficult pathway that you didn't pick for yourself. We still have to navigate it, even though we didn't choose it.

When people ask about my son, my standard answer is....he's doing the best he can for the moment....which tells them nothing really, but I do always ask for their continued prayers. I save my true feelings for my closest friends and for here because not everyone is as kind as they seem. And in the first days of my finding out that my son was an addict I found that people can be really cruel without meaning to be...and Alanon is not anonynous in our small town....and most people cannot understand what it means to have a child that is an addict and all that comes with that.

I will be thinking of you and praying for you and your family throughout these days....welcome to our group....and I'm really sorry you have to be here....

Debb

over 2 years ago
You're quite welcome here. Unfortunately, your story isn't very different from all of our stories. Debb has given you good advice - we all do the best we can with what we have.

Like Debb, I was in a small town and had a kid "everyone" knew. When he crashed and burned and it became very public, I'd get that "how is ___ doing?" with the tone that only the parent of an addict knows. It was horrid. A dear friend who's got long years of recovery from alcoholism suggested that I screw up my courage and say something cheeky. I finally got the nerve to say "he is struggling, and the people who care about him are praying for him to find his way. I hope you will do so as well." That usually resulted in mumbled assents and an end to the conversation. When it didn't, it was folk who shared they were going through something similar, and how hard it was and what they were doing to try to get by. And I stopped caring what anybody said, frankly, because the ones who were supportive truly cared about us, and the nosy ones weren't worth spending time thinking about.

My kid picked up at 11 and got clean at 16 after facing felony charges. He's 27 now and still clean. He struggles a lot - not using is only a part of it. He missed a lot when he was active and he pays for that now. He's still depressed, and not a little angry with himself - he's still working on that part. Recovery is a long and sometimes painful process for the addict and the people who love the addict. We - parents and addicts - all have to find our own road.

I learned that I didn't break him and I can't fix him. I can only love him and provide the support that doesn't take away from my own physical, financial and emotional needs. I had to set boundaries and stick to them (and that hurt like hell because I couldn't love him sober). I had to let him hit bottom (and that hurt because it scared the daylights out of me to think of him in jail). And now, a decade later, I still have to have boundaries and let his recovery be his (and let my recovery from his addiction be my responsibility).

I am a person who believes in the power of prayer. For me, it has provided the only place that I felt truly safe through all of the storm. Probably the best advice I can give is that you find that place - prayer, or knitting, or walks in the woods - that gives that to you. You and your daughter are in my thoughts.

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Sammig's profile

over 2 years ago
Thank you so much. Sorry if I sound just plain mean and resentful. It's just I'm new to living with her trying to stay clean and I feel I have to be perfect. My husband was wonderful, but she deals me the same personality dynamics that he used mentally to keep me on my heels.

Great advice on responding to people. There's always that air of yes, I've heard about your daughter, but I'm gonna pretend ignorant and see what you say. I have responded similarly and said simply, "she's really struggling." Just like it's impossible to explain losing a spouse, it's impossible to explain having a child that's an addict.

I guess I'm just so mad at her right now. I hate what she's going thru, but I didn't feed her drugs either. I feel so very naive, giving birth to her "naturally" without any drugs (ha!), breastfeeding, avoiding 2nd hand smoke (now she smokes too). But like you said, you didn't break your child and you can't fix them either.

I'm beginning to see that this is as much about us changing our ways of thinking and our own path as it is about the addict. It apparently takes quite a bit of humbling for me to really stay vigilant in prayer. I found that while she was away, I was just trying to get back to "normal" and carry on life without the hassles.

Thanks again guys. Really glad I found this group.
widowmom's profile

over 2 years ago
Mom, you said it all. It is about us changing the way we deal with the addict. I spent years trying to " fix" my son, to no avail. When I started to look at my own feelings about it all and how to cope, is when it started getting better. Oh! He didn,t quit drugs. As a matter of fact he,s doing six years in prison right now for trying to get money to support his habit and he,s not a kid at forty six. I just learned that if you don,t take care of yourself and set boundaries, they will take you down with them.
Joygirl68's profile

over 2 years ago
Dear Widowmom,
I am so sorry for the loss of your husband and for the problems with your daughter. You, your daughter, and son's are in my prayers. I'm so glad you found EON'S.
Linda
hopefullinda's profile

over 2 years ago
Hello to Everyone out there.
I have been a nervous wreck this week. My son went to court Friday 11-18. He still has anotHer court date Dec.3rd., (different court) The lawyer says to bond him out and get him into a rehab. ASAP because he wants him to be in rehab. before seeing the judge on Dec. 1st. My son has been in jail (again) this time for 2 1/2 mos. We did not bond him out as I said I would not bail him out again (last time). Do I do what the lawyer recommends?
Frantic now,
Linda
hopefullinda's profile

over 2 years ago
Linda, nobody here can make that decision for you. Here's what it sounds like, though: your son has not asked to go to rehab. He has not indicated he has an interest in becoming clean and sober. The purpose of putting him in rehab is to try to elicit a lighter sentence or probation instead of any sentence. If you have no insurance, you will pay for your son to spend a week or so in a place where nothing will change, and you will then pay a lawyer for "getting him off" and in a month or a week or a day, you will be given the opportunity to do it all again.

I don't know what the courts are like where you are, but here, it's unlikely that short-term rehab would be seen as a commitment to change one's life. I also don't know what type of prison system exists where you are. And I don't know what your tolerance is for the horrible letting go that has to happen to not do what the lawyer asks. Seems to me that if it was my son, I'd talk with him and get a gauge on whether it's have any effect. People get sober in prison every day - I do volunteer work with guys coming out of the system who've managed to stay sober and clean for years while serving their terms.

Whatever decision you make, know that we're here to support you.
Sammig's profile

over 2 years ago
Dear Sammig,
I really don't know what I'm going to do. I feel sick to my stomach.
Thank you for your input.
Linda
hopefullinda's profile

over 2 years ago
Dear Linda....I am sorry you are going through this....I wish there were instructions on how to take each step with our adult addicts. This is a decision that you will have to make...but you can seek advice from people who have been in your shoes.

I do know that addicts who enter rehab to escape jail time usually are not very successful at staying sober. And Sammig is right, you should talk to your son directly and try to see where he is at in this situation. If it is rehab for avoiding jail, I would hesitate and think long and hard about getting my hopes up. If he truly wants to get sober and stay sober and is willing to do whatever it takes to get there, then that would be an answer.

Jail is never what we want for our kids....and I do know that in most areas there are programs within the jail system to help addicts recover and the likelihood of using in jail goes down substantially...

I know this really is not an answer.....but I know you feel torn and desperate. That isn't a great place emotionally from which to make decisions. Hopefully, you can quiet your heart and mind and try to find some peace for yourself so that you can make a wise choice.

Only you can make that choice, and no matter what you decide, we will all be here for you.

Debb

over 2 years ago
I know exactly what you mean - for the past year and 1/2 I've been avoiding good friends & a lot of family members because I just can't bear for them to ask me how my brilliant, outgoing, successful son is doing. How is he doing? He lost his job, house, car & was living with my new husband & I up until Friday nite when we came home from work & found him high as a kite. His sister gave him her SUV after his car was repossessed and within 2 weeks he wrapped that around a tree- but nothing is EVER his fault, he's always just a victim of circumstances. His drug of choice is pills - Oxy, Xanax, "Rockacettes", whatever he can get his hands on - he starts taking them & doesn't remember how many he took. I know I have to make him stay out of the house - he's destroying me- but I'm so afraid he'll OD on his own. But yet can I live like this? So much sadness & desperation from all of these tortured parents makes me petrified that there's no answer out there to this hell. My brother has been a heroin addict for 20 yrs and I was always so sure of myself telling my mother how she should toughen up & handle him - Karma you think? Now I understand too well what my poor Mother was going through - they are horrible people, these addicts - not people we would ever choose to be around if they weren't our children - liars, thieves, embarrassments, financial, physical & emotional drains - but yet they still can break your heart in their pain, because he or she is your child. I thought I had all the answers, but I realize now I know nothing - I'm at a total helpless loss.
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over 2 years ago
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