it sorta does BWA,something i wondered and the news media or the military pulled back on was that because of his faith he was subjected to harassment by fellow soldiers.and this guy passes the muster after listening to so many horror stories.its hard to decipher what goes thru someones mind especialy if told of having to kill fellow Muslims.
yes its gonna be tough on those in and out of the military of that faith.there is always the fear of those being programed.
also i think this might put Obama in a bad spot,i say -might -,before anyone jumps on me for that.you can see how anything gives anti Obamites fuel for fodder.
He was at the post only two months. My suspicion is that he wasn't cutting it where he had been earlier. From the little that has been said about the man, I suspect he was like the washouts I saw in Corrections. Basically, he didn't know how to earn the respect of those around him. He may also have an aire of failure in his relationships with others and he was too stubborn to see it.
As terrible as it was at Fort Hood, it has been as bad or worse elsewhere. How many have forgotten the VMI massacre where 33 died? Columbine in Colorado? Or, Northern Illinois? Seems to me, there was a man who shot killed 15 people in a McDonalds in San Diego years ago. What about the 16 killed at the University of Texas by the Eagle Scout? None of them were muslims, but all of them bore a grudge against the world.
He was probably being harassed by some for his religious beliefs, as many Americans are. There are so many who believe that being Muslim means being anti-American which is completely wrong IMO. We have the fear mongers to thank for that. That being said, there are lots of people with worse stress who don't flip out and kill people around them. He probably had some serious emotional issues and I am sure there were people around him who knew it but didn't think it would come to this. At what point do you do something about a friend who you think is in trouble? Do we really listen to what others are trying to tell us? I have heard that people do give warning signs before they act, were his warnings ignored?
? Do we really listen to what others are trying to tell us?
How true! peple will tell us who & what they are, we just gotta listen.. looking back I can see signs of many things I have been told, if only I listened.
This is my take on all this.
1. Being Muslim...sure it's going to be a factor. If it wasn't before it will be now. Problem with that, what will the military do with others of Islamic faith? Use to be the color of a man's skin, determined if you could depend on him in combat. Now, going into an Islamic countries...
2. Psychologist...Just as susupable as anyone else for break down. IMO, mental health is something we all prone to battle with. But yes, it's a stain on the profession...just like if had been a cop, fireman or any other profession.
3. Well, living in Texas...what can I say? Used to be New Orleans, New York, L.A.
4. IMO, first your talking about a Major, a Field Grade Officer, and unless he was working with LTC's or higher, who was going to question him? Were there red flag's to begin with? Reports say he didn't want to go to war...so resign your commission and get out. But as far as him working at Walter Reed, I haven't found out what he was doing at Hood.
Those of us who served in Vietnam, will understand what I'm talking about. The popular term then was "flash backs". The dreams, on edge all the time. Some snapped, others didn't. It goes with the terrority. He didn't have that, he had never gone. Now was he crazy to begin with? There's no telling.
Len, he wasn't a washout, but had received below average O.E.R.'s (Officer Eval. Reports). Pretty much would have cooked any further advancement in the military. Now, being sent from Walter Reed to Hood...could have been any number of reasons. But to advance to that pay grade, you don't need the respect of anyone except the one who does your O.E.R., that will make or break you. What little I've heard of his personnal life, doesn't say a whole lot.
But something I always wonder about. We only heard about the Columbine's, Padooka Ky's, because kids did the killing. And how many days did the media insure we got all the gory details about it. Any lose of life like this is wrong and sad.
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The man is a psychologist dealing with troops who had been in combat, listening to their horror stories, and he didn't want to go to Iraq. Yes, he was stressed out.
I just learned of another term that was in use during the Viet Nam war. Fragging
"During the years of 1969 down to 1973, we have the rise of fragging - that is, shooting or hand-grenading your NCO or your officer who orders you out into the field," says historian Terry Anderson of Texas A & M University. "The US Army itself does not know exactly how many...officers were murdered. But they know at least 600 were murdered, and then they have another 1400 that died mysteriously. Consequently by early 1970, the army [was] at war not with the enemy but with itself." Rough figures for "fraggings" are indicated in column a. below.
view linkAnd then we have the female troops being raped and murdered by their countrymen in Iraq, as well.
It is wrong and sad, indeed.
You're right, officers were killed there by their own troops. Fragging was just that...dropping a grenade on someone. But there were cases that it was found that it was in retrobution for something the officer or NCO had done. Causing the needless deaths of buddies in combat was a good way for it to happen.
It was a bad time, and what's happening now is just as bad.
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I am looking at this from the psychologist point of view. 1st he is a psychiatrist – not a psychologist. Psychiatrist are at the top of the ladder for earnings and respect because of their medical training but what a lot of people do not know is that most of their training is in the medical field and they do not need the mental health education that psychologist go through. Because they are well respected and revered I doubt that there would be anyone that would question his sanity – certainly not another person in the mental health care field – you just don’t do that. I have known therapist that should not be therapist and Psychiatrist that think they are god and there is no one that is going to tell them that they need help. In school they are teaching psychology students to talk with colleagues when they are having difficulties with a client so they can get a different perspective. This man worked in the field of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and yet it seems that he may have been suffering from it himself – maybe some transference from his clients – who knows. I am pretty sure that in this case there where signs that people ignored.
As for the Muslim issue – I think it was the catalyst but not the problem – it just exasperated the underline problem which was that he was unbalanced and could not cope. His problems went a hell of lot deeper than not wanting to serve in a military that are killing brother Muslims. He had problems when he was an intern at Walter Reed and they made him go through counseling and supervision. We will never know what those problems might have been.
Is this a black mark on the mental health field – you bet which is sad because we go into this field primarily because we want to help people. “Do No Harm”
THIS GUY IS AN INFILTRATE.
and you say that because??
