MS.....Obama inherited a recession and ONE war with two fronts from GW.....who in turn had inherited a recession from Mr. Bill.....and a not-so-defined-war.....
If we are going to discuss those points, let's keep the facts straight.....
Sorry, hershman, but I disagree. Iraq had NOTHING to do with the "war on terror". There was no Al Queda in Iraq, it was a secular nation, Saddam was effectively contained and the U.N. was on the ground til we kicked them out to invade. There was no need for a war in Iraq. The real "war on Terror was in Afghanistan. I stand by my statement that Obama inherited 2 wars. They still have nothing to do with each other and are treated separately by the Pentagon and State Dept. as well as the WH.
Obama didn't inherit anything - no one made him run for office, he knew the lay of the land before he ran. So - he actually agreed to take the problems left behind as part of the assignment and he should stop complaining and whinning about any of it. Think about any job you've ever taken - the person before you probably left some major gaps and problems, yet you still took the job - the difference is that you in the new job, don't get to complain/blame the other person (and the problems left behind) for your lack of success.
Sure you do, I've taken on jobs or seen other people take on jobs that had been left a mess by the person who had that position. Everyone knows the prior person screwed up and the new person inherited a mess. However, that person has to not only do a good job, but clean up the other person's mess. It's the same with the Presidency. The problem is some people want to ignore the mess that was there to greet the new President and expect miracles in an impossible amount of time. Obama signed up for the job - but he's only human. If he can pull of a miracle - it's going to take time - both with the wars and with the economy. If he's a screw up, that will be made apparent in time as well. This is how it's been for all Presidents. The partisanship seems to get worse with every President. It was bad with Clinton, worse with W. and now even worse with Obama.
mshadow: I agree with what you have to say. The only thing I would add is - it seems Obama overcommitted himself in terms of what he would deliver in 2009. That he owns and frankly this is the issue I have with the complaining.
"...Sorry, hershman, but I disagree. Iraq had NOTHING to do with the "war on terror". There was no Al Queda in Iraq, it was a secular nation, Saddam was effectively contained and the U.N. was on the ground til we kicked them out to invade. There was no need for a war in Iraq."--mszhadow.
Really? I'll bet the people who were involved in the genocide your old buddy had going on over there would disagree with that. If BJ Bill had had more on his mind than young, nubile, interns, and responded when the first bombing of the Trade Center, or when the USS Cole was nearly sunk, killing sailors in addition, things might be different today. But we'll never know will we?
It makes no difference anyway, The Chitown Hustler is NOT going to take any responsibility and The Chitown Mafia will, as long as in office, keep blaming someone else for all their problems and issues. You know, the democrat way, NO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Never admit to your incompetence. Never admit you don't know what you are doing, or ask for help. There are plenty of people to lay the blame on, and he has no problem throwing them under the bus.
Is it 2012 yet?
posted by RobtC
17 days ago
They are bound and determined to rush this bill through so that we the people can have a year to "forget" who voted for it.
"They are bound and determined to rush this bill through so that we the people can have a year to "forget" who voted for it. "--aries
Dead on. The American voter is either incredibly lazy or is suffering from memory loss. Most people, will forget how much these people have done to screw us, but will recognize a name and pull the lever.
Too bad that I don't have a copy of if, but you can not believe the campaign ads Specter is running here in PA. Next time it comes on, I'll point it toward my garden; it needs the fertilizer.
posted by RobtC
17 days ago
Saddam was a brutal dictator and an evil man. No one disagrees with that. But he wasn't a Islamic radical who hated Al Queda. He ruled Iraq with an iron hand and wasn't going to share that with anyone or any religion. iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror and there was no need to rush into that war. He was contained and the U.N. was on the ground. We should have taken that time and finished the job in Afghanistan. We wouldn't have the mess in Afghanistan we now have and if we had to eventually invade Iraq we would have had time to do that job right, instead of the highly destructive bloody mess we caused.
The Iraq & Qaeda connection was quit possible.
view linkSaddam was a brutal dictator and an evil man. No one disagrees with that. But he wasn't a Islamic radical who hated Al Queda.
No one disagrees with that either.
