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Exonerated or a scapegoat?

In the "scapegoat" thread someone claimed George W Bush was a “scapegoat”. Is he a scapegoat?

With that in mind, let's catalog the drivers that have created the Recession, and make sure we agree when these collective actions happened.

First, the sub-prime mortgage meltdown. During the 8 years the previous administration was in charge, we saw a dramatic expansion in available credit to borrowers who where not able to quality for conventional mortgages. This boom in new buyers drove up housing prices, creating a bubble of newfound wealth in the equity of homes, and creating a cycle of borrowing against newly inflated home equity. This bubble was evident to economists and consumers alike, yet in the absence of any legislation or government controls - the trend continued to balloon.

Second, Iraq. The cost of our dramatic increase in military spending provided a huge drain on the Federal Budget, as services that were heretofore part of the military budget became privatized and outsourced. Companies like Blackwater and Halliburton received huge military contracts to provide services - often without bids or oversight. Now, seven years later, we're uncovering fraud, waste, and violations of human rights that reflect both the size of the contracts and the Government's basic lack of ability to oversee or administer these programs. The elixir of privatization and deregulation created an environment that was ripe for fraud and misuse. In hindsight, is this any surprise?

Third, abandonment of a US economic vision. For 8 years our economic future got put on hold. Gasoline taxes, emission standards or innovation in our core sectors were all either ignored or frowned upon.

Fourth, the environment. As government dragged their heals on any environmental science, things like Kyoto were left unsigned. As former Vice President Al Gore raised the nation's awareness of Global Warming, the former Administration sought to minimize and obfuscate the science around climate change. As a result, government funding for new energy was back-burnered, and industries that count on the Government to legislate change and create a level playing field continued to build and produce gas guzzling trucks and automobiles. While other world governments have used gas taxes to drive both conservation and innovation, the former administration essentially subsidized fossil fuel burning automobiles. The result, our energy industries are desperately behind, and our automotive industry is almost a decade behind in thinking about alternative energy.

Fifth, Wall Street and Banking. For 8 years there has been a dramatic expansion in the services and fast consolidation of what had been separate and in some cases regulated industries. As banking, brokerage, insurance, and financial services companies acquired and merged - the speed of these transactions far exceeded the regulatory ability or resources (not by accident) resulting in such things as credit default swaps that now even seasoned wall-streeters say were hard to understand.

The Recession isn't the result of a single bad decision, or even actions out of our control. For 8 years we allowed a handful of private industries to operate without oversight or review, with a focus on short term gains, as environmental and world economic issues have loomed large.

Is George W Bush a scapegoat for the Recession?
LifeLoveLaughter's profile
He's a perpetrator, not a scapegoat. A scapegoat is one blamed for something someone else did. His list of offenses and misjudgments is a long one.

over 2 years ago
You stole my "scapegoat"! He was branded and I have papers!
wot53's profile

over 2 years ago
In 1998, under pressure from the Federal Reserve, the Clinton administration stripped virtually all regulatory power from the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, which allowed for the exponential growth of derivatives trading with little or no oversight. This highly dangerous market operated with assets worth many times less than they were traded for. This doesn't give Bush a pass by any means as he was the one who saw the profit potential of this market and pounced on it by selling home ownership as a vehicle to drive the market to new highs. There still hasn't been any new legislation to regulate this market and Brooksley Born, the former chairman of the CFTC has warned that the same catastrophic losses we saw over the last few years can and will happen again and again with out proper regulatory oversight.

Bush was a major player in our current situation but deregulation goes all the way back to Reagan.

An out of control market coupled with tax cuts and two wars that many find unecessary are all a part of the Bush legacy but all the parts for this fiasco were there just waiting for someone like him to come along.
Pluto50's profile

over 2 years ago
I've never been one to go easy on "W", but blaming him for the mess we're is like blaming unions or management for the debacle called General Motors. The fact is they both contributed to GM's bankruptcy and the public played its part.

Many of our current problems can be traced to a fruitless need to blame the other guy. If everyone's on the ship and its sinking because no one is fixing the leaks, no one is exempt. So the Captain hit an iceberg because he was distracted and the crew in the engine room are on strike, arguing blame when everyone is drowning in cold water is the very definition of stupidity.
LenRobertson's profile

over 2 years ago
Pluto50 has it right.

The current financial mess is a direct result of deregulation that started in the Reagan era.
NOTE: "STARTED in the Reagan era and continued in significant increments up to and including 2000.

The people who keep screaming for a "free market" are naive at best, cunning at worst.

"Capitalism" without external, monitored controls becomes predatory. That's exactly what we had in the 1990's and this last decade that fueled a housing boom that was/is laughable were it not so expensive and tragic.

We must restore federal financial oversight and review. Our financial institutions can't be trusted to police themselves. We've seen that they can't/won't and that they still believe, "greed is good."

As for George W. being a scapegoat: "W" was/is not the brightest bulb in the pack. He should never have been President. But he was. And that's why the weight falls on him. He is not a scapegoat as pointed out by gothangal. However, ultimately, he is responsible. He had people around him who did not have the common good at heart. W probably is not a bad guy. He's just not smart enough to be engaged and involved and pull Cheney and Rumsfelds chains when needed. W's naivete is how Cheney and Rumsfeld could manipulate him,

To his credit, W stayed out of view and has been quiet this first year of Obama's administration. He gets major points for this. Cheney, on the other hand, needs to have another heart attack. Maybe that will zip his lips.

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Quippian's profile

over 2 years ago
thing with this issue is it is so complicated the dolar is basically worthless and that began one can say back in 1971 when Pres Nixon took the dollar off being pegged to gold remember that sentence on every dollar redeemable in gold or silver. the dolar became a floating commodity wih nothing to back it except faith that the US economy would remain strong.(oops) i tell you the new international currency wil be chinese very soon. Then you will see some scapegoating.
yichel's profile

over 2 years ago
About a year ago one or more groups knew this was going to happen - the dollar being worthless on the International scene. Basically because of the fact that the USA was buying too many things from foreign countries, because they were cheaper than making things in the USA. BUT the dollar not being backed by gold will be costly in the long run. Because the foreign nations when they find out that we are not backed up with gold and they want to be paid in gold we are going to be in trouble. I hope and pray that we do not end up in the mess that was predicted.
MarylouKL's profile

over 2 years ago
that is why we lwft gold as a backer of our money can one scapegoat an inanimate object lets blame it on the cotton linin. the dollar is made from (not paper) it let us down.

Is this post becoming to political?
yichel's profile

over 2 years ago

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