Message 110 of 2002

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I am searching for someone who has been helped by the stimulas packages. Looking for that person who was able to benefit from all that money. Please let me know that you received some benefit.

All the people I know didn't get a new house, new car, new job, stopped fore closure, etc. All I want to know is if some real person in Wisconsin actually was helped.
captjoe's profile
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I'd like to see the article as well...not like Belling doesn't have an agenda.
Lily60's profile

17 days ago
All you have to do is go to google.com and type "stimulus con" - and wow! Too many articles to mention!
razzamatazz's profile

17 days ago
Very interesting discussions--too late tonight to go through all of them word for word. I do believe Pelosi and Reid should get other jobs. . . People like these in Washington D. C. don't live like most of us here do. Stated before by Capt Joe and others--let them have the same kind of health insurance--with the same deductibles--and pay the same taxes to provide enough money to pay for this total health care bill. Do Pelosi and Reid and others think that "money grows on trees"? There is no way that Obama is going to keep his promise that no one will have increased taxes because of the health care reform bill. They are already saying that young people who don't have health insurance will be "fined" if they don't acquire health insurance.

I do believe that something has to be done, but why won't the Democrats even listen to the Republicans ideas for health care reform? After all this stimulus package was passed (without our legislators all reading it), and look at the "pork" that was in it. Now we will or our children will be in debt for years to come, because of the stimulus bill.

Just my 2 cents worth--OH--I guess it is 4 cents worth--I think I already responded in this thread earlier :)
Eduk8er60's profile

16 days ago
Pelosi is a multi-millionaire, Reid is not quite as well-off but still a millionaire. Reid's net worth has doubled in the last few years, while he's been in the Senate -- nice job, if you can get it, and he's been there since 1986. Pelosi is just plain rich. She lists several checking accounts with up to $100,000 balances - must be nice! These people do not, and never did, understand what it's like to work for a living. They would not be hurt at all by making them have the same health insurance as the rest of us unless you make them pay the same percentage of their income for it as we do. If Pelosi had a medical tragedy, she could just sell off some stock and pay for it. These are the people that we've elected to make our monetary decisions for us. Next time I want a poor person elected to congress.
OldMike's profile

16 days ago
Old Mike-- I agree with you about electing people to Congress that can identify with the average working person. Pelosi keeps saying that people all over the country "want" this health care reform bill.

Quite the opposite is true--"Democrats" as well as "Republicans" are saying that this is too big a thing for government to take on. So Pelosi is not speaking for the majority of the country.

Yes, we need something done, but I hope it's not this "radical" takeover by government--especially when we don't know the details.

I do agree with the part of the bill that says one cannot be denied insurance by pre-existing conditions. My son, at a very young age of 27, was diagnosed with Malignant Melanoma. Fortunately it was only in the very early part of 1st stage. He is now one year short of the 5 year period of "wellness", that he has to pass to get regular health insurance. His employer dropped the "group health insurance" (due to actions of the government on this health-care reform). He is now on the only high-risk health insurance that WI offers.
Eduk8er60's profile

16 days ago
The opinion as to who wants what is a matter of the source one is using. Depending on the way the poll is worded Americans overwhelmingly want at minmal a Public Option and depending on the wording it is only the percentage that varies.

Apart from the noise makers whoring for headlines were millions of Americans that took their support to legislators singly, rationally, and without noise or confrontation. Unlike the tea party group with the guy with a gun tied to his leg dancing about like a rodeo clown, they got no coverage. Something radical does need to be done or we will simply have to start all over again.

It is interesting that Bush's partial privitization of Medicare with The Prescription Drug Bill is estimated to cost more than either the House or Senate proposal for Health Care now pending.

"Medicare Drug Benefit May Cost $1.2 Trillion
Estimate Dwarfs Bush's Original Price Tag

By Ceci Connolly and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, February 9, 2005; Page A01

The White House released budget figures yesterday indicating that the new Medicare prescription drug benefit will cost more than $1.2 trillion in the coming decade, a much higher price tag than President Bush suggested when he narrowly won passage of the law in late 2003.

The projections represent the most complete picture to date of how much the program will cost after it begins next year. The expense of the new drug benefit has been a source of much controversy since the day Congress approved it, with Democrats and some Republicans complaining that the White House has consistently low-balled the expected cost to the government."
Full Article at: view link

The same people crying now were not only pretty quiet than but many supported it.
RubiconIII's profile

16 days ago
And that just means that we should not trust the estimate of the costs for this new health bill, and expect it to cost us many times more than the estimates. Great!!!!

I was looking at a Washington Post-ABC poll that said that 57% support some form of govt option, but 48% oppose the proposed plan and fewer than that support the current plan. So, I don't think this shows that an overwhelming majority want a public option, but I do see support for it.

What Americans have been trying to say it -- don't pass THIS bill, but find one that will work, and not increase taxes and the deficit. 45% of the 68% of the people who say that the deficit would go up actually support the bill, i.e. it would be worth raising the deficit for this bill -- that's only about 30% of Americans that support raising the deficit for THIS bill. That means that 70% of the people OPPOSE raising the deficit for this plan.

Why doesn't congress listen to its constituency?

Why do so many lemmings believe that congress will do the right thing?

Or, why do people believe that, because we need to do SOMETHING, then we should do ANYHING? Since when is anything better than nothing? Bad logic!
OldMike's profile

15 days ago
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