Cardstell , while you are correct in saying that that only use of the word triumph is in relation to death's triumph , it seems as if you don't see the forest because of the trees . The entire poem is a celebration of life . For life to exist , even for a moment or a day , it has to triumph over death for that long .
posted by Dirck
5 months ago
I realize that what I quoted was out of context. I do that quite often to stimulate our own thinking.
I do not believe any comment is simply an 'observation'. I believe all observations are in fact conclusions.
When you talk to teenagers about triumph over death, or with people in their 30's, and then people over 50, you get wildly different perspectives on what it means.
Sometimes, phrases just jump out at me and start me on a train of thought that has nothing to do with the context in which I found it.
Martiln,
I liked your statements,
"I realize that what I quoted was out of context. I do that quite often to stimulate our own thinking."
and
"Sometimes, phrases just jump out at me and start me on a train of thought that has nothing to do with the context in which I found it."
Keep up the good work, stimulation of thinking is very good. Derailment of a standard way of thinking is very very good.
"The measure of a man is not, "How did he die?" but "How did he live?"
not "What did he gain?" but "What did he give?"" - Unknown
I realize this sounds cliche ... but the older I get, the more it rings true!
I really feel exasperated sometimes when reading some of the choices people make of things to talk about at eons (not in this group). We are the people we have been waiting for! I'm just amazed at (supposedly over 50 people) that seem to still have the emotional intelligence of pre-teenagers, wondering aloud what shade of lipstick to wear, or if some actor is gay ... yeah ... it's fun to have fun sometimes. Much more fun to engage in conversations like this one ... how in the world can we be the change we wish to see in the world if we don't?
Cliches are not cliches because they are trite. They become cliches because they are true. And the older we get, the more we realize just how true they are.
All except for the 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks' cliche. That may be true for dogs, but it is definitely not true for us boomer folks and older. We can keep learning new tricks as long as we have an interest in doing so.
Yeah, old dogs can learn anything they want to ... like "selective hearing" ... LOL
Focusing on "can't" doesn't work for me!
