bombing of cities in WWII
was this a war crime on a major scale? much of the British public thought that "bomber"Harris went too far. Fire bombing of Japan? how would this amount of destruction be viewed today?
Two lines from this thread...
"Think we will ever learn?"
After thousands of years, it should be obvious that it's not about learning anything.
"Vietnam........was not my war..."
My war. Every generation is privileged to have it's own war. I think I just learned something.
"Think we will ever learn?"
After thousands of years, it should be obvious that it's not about learning anything.
"Vietnam........was not my war..."
My war. Every generation is privileged to have it's own war. I think I just learned something.
5 months ago
a friend of mine on hearing about the court martial of Lt Calley said"court marshaling someone for killing over here is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500" the truly scary part of human nature is how quickly we adapt to situations. the unthinkable becomes the normal.
5 months ago
I like it when I hear sane women speak up and we mothers...right on Espirit
5 months ago
The reason I said "it was not my war" is because I am English and was living there at the time. It was viewed from a distance for me and I thank God for that.
5 months ago
We firebombed Germany, unconditional surrender, and peace.
We firebombed Japan, unconditional surrender, and peace.
We didn't firebomb Hanoi/N. Vietnam, we lost the war.
We didn't firebomb religious nuts in Middle east, we are still at war, and we will never know peace.
We firebombed Japan, unconditional surrender, and peace.
We didn't firebomb Hanoi/N. Vietnam, we lost the war.
We didn't firebomb religious nuts in Middle east, we are still at war, and we will never know peace.
5 months ago
oh let us just start fire bombing all our enemies and people can start fire bombing us...that will end it alright
5 months ago
"We didn't firebomb Hanoi/N. Vietnam [sic]??"
That would be a very big surprise to pilots, infantry men and Special Forces directly involved in that civil war!!!
That would be a very big surprise to pilots, infantry men and Special Forces directly involved in that civil war!!!
5 months ago
We act as if making war on the civilian population is strictly a modern innovation .Throughout history you can read accounts of cities being besieged , captured , and burned to the ground with the entire population being slaughtered and/or sold into slavery . We aren't doing anything different , we are just doing it in a different way . I don't mean to condone the practice as being acceptable because of long traditition . It is still wrong , I am just pointing out that the essence of the action hasn't changed in thousands of years . (Dirck)
He's quite correct.
And while Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden, and Vietnam have made this thread, there are multitudes of examples, historically, of obliterated cities and populations. Hitler and Stalin, for example, made a pact to split Poland in two, decimate the population, and take over the land.
He's quite correct.
And while Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden, and Vietnam have made this thread, there are multitudes of examples, historically, of obliterated cities and populations. Hitler and Stalin, for example, made a pact to split Poland in two, decimate the population, and take over the land.
5 months ago
"We firebombed Germany, unconditional surrender, and peace.
We firebombed Japan, unconditional surrender, and peace."
We have a cause-and-effect problem here. Germany surrendered only when Berlin fell and all of Germany was occupied by Allied troops. Japan surrendered after the A-bombs. . .yes. . .but not until we had defeated her armies across the Pacific and including the home island of Okinawa.
The effectiveness of air power as a weapon of war has been and still is vastly overrated, as can be seen by our recent experiences in Afghanistan.
We firebombed Japan, unconditional surrender, and peace."
We have a cause-and-effect problem here. Germany surrendered only when Berlin fell and all of Germany was occupied by Allied troops. Japan surrendered after the A-bombs. . .yes. . .but not until we had defeated her armies across the Pacific and including the home island of Okinawa.
The effectiveness of air power as a weapon of war has been and still is vastly overrated, as can be seen by our recent experiences in Afghanistan.
5 months ago
I guess the point I am stuck on is: WHY didn't we know about the bombing of Dresden, the horrible effects of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the fire bombed villages in Vietnam . . .and on and on. Who controls the publishers so that we are kept ignorant of these horrible war crimes?
The only bright spot I can see is the internet and cell phones, Twitter, etc. It's going to be damn hard for any country to hide their mistakes in this day and age . . .I hope.
The only bright spot I can see is the internet and cell phones, Twitter, etc. It's going to be damn hard for any country to hide their mistakes in this day and age . . .I hope.
5 months ago
