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physical strength as a value

Although I am unfairly cherry picking my examples I am curious if the idea holds water. My wife has many times brought up that many Hollywood action heroes today are short in height. Examples Sylvester Stallone, Arnold S., Mel Gibson, and I began to think about physical prowess how in the past a man’s and probably but not as much women’s physical strength was a factor in how one was assessed.(keep your shirt on I am not equating being short to being weak) Again in history starting with George Washington the first thing people would say about him was his height 6 feet 2,, he was the best horseman n America and his bearing of strength. That was a major factor why he was selected to head the revolutionary army. (Look at his military record not impressive 2 battles lost one cheated on the other. I know he also had uniform.) Today Jul 4th Abraham Lincoln talk about physical prowess and height. Lincoln was called by his detractors as an ape, ugly etc., many times he would enter a town and wrestle with the strongest he rarely lost. At age 60 he could still lift an axe by just his fingers arm held straight out try it. PM if you can do it.
Frederick Douglas another large tall and physically strong man. Escaping slavery that alone took such strength. He is described as a lion of a man. I know much of that had to do with his grey mane like beard and African heritage but I also think people heard and could feel his strength thus he gained further respect.
Finally Walt Whitman, gay man, tall 6 feet 2 maybe 3 inches large barrel chest. He almost always wore clothes of the working man from boots shirt, always opened. He wanted to convey a sense of physical manliness. Which also might have come from his up bringing? His father and all his brothers and he were carpenters, and house builders.

I remember the picture of Ronald Reagan at his California estate they tended to have him chopping wood or describe him doing some physical task.
Finally Theodore Roosevelt this skinny weak, near bind, asthmatic kid who goes to Harvard with the intention of totally changing his body he joins the boxing team by he time he graduates and heads of to Montana or North Dakota? He will be described for ever as a tower of pugilistic strength.. Here is my wondering
Now physical strength means the gym. There is no real need in our society. Does it also means that perseverance and willingness to take on burdens have dropped? just some personal junk I would never in my life been considered physically strong although perseverance and the nastines that drives it would be identified
yichel's profile
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Yes. And we tend to equate sexual attractiveness, sometimes with performance and ability.

When I say the two candidates running for governor in my state, and saw that one was really very very heavy, I thought, if he can't control his food intake, how is he going to control our state?

Yes, Yichel. Stupid of me, but it was there, in my head, until I reasoned with myself.
crestofwaves's profile

5 months ago
I'm 5'4", 110lbs. Not a lot of physical strength but it comes when I need it. I've relied more on my emotional strength, integrity, character, and intelligence so much more than physicality. Works for me!
citygal226's profile

5 months ago
this is no joke on CSpan aninterview was describing John Mccainas someone who hd demonstrated botghhis strength and character by his vitnam experience. He then said that Mccain still walks like a foot ball player. A few minutes later in a response to obama's experience and the act that he went to harvard he actually said that obama had not been tested and alhough tall walks with a certain grace. I had to laugh but as someone who sat in a wheelchair for a few months i use to watch pepole walk to recognize th how to to hekp my brain remember and i became facinated by the different ways folk walk and even started to attempt to asess if it hasd any meaning. If someone looked like they had a runners walk even if i did not know them, "excuse me i was just noticing and wondered if you were a runner by any chabce?" who would not answer a polite gimp?
yichel's profile

5 months ago
As for the mental aspects , smaller men are very often much more aggressive than larger men . The Napoleonic complex drives them to compensate for their smaller size to gain respect , while the larger man has instant respect because of his size and frequently does not feel any need to prove anything . I am not very tall , just under 6 ft , but I am big , my best weight is right around 250 pounds . At 250 , I could outrun all but one guy on my high school football team and outpower everyone of them , and we were state champs .
Dirck's profile

5 months ago
I think you may be overlooking other types of physical strength, i.e. endurance runners with small stature/physique yet world class atheletes. Physical strength as a value probably originates when it was necessary simply for survival.
oldhckyplyr's profile

5 months ago
seemslike i touched something here wihout intending to. Maybe i'll just head off to the gym and check out some bodies.
yichel's profile

5 months ago
The female gym rats in spandex, Yichel? Just asking......
MartiInMexico's profile

5 months ago
A little I find the gym facinating where i go there is a numner of distinct groups I tend to work out wiht the older 60 + after we leave usually the fine toned show up al though i do laugh when I follow one I get to a machine pull out the metal tool that maintain ones desired wheight to lift and drop it all the way down. Only on the leg press I lift 320 punds (thanks to riding riding) and have had the pleasure of adding wheiight.
yichel's profile

5 months ago
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