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Maggiel (hope I got your name right!) That's a Big Yes from me about what you said about the romance, well the whole reply really!

Hell yes, Maggie!!!!

Honeybee, I am sure it was no laughing matter to you, but when you wrote about your poor nipples being pinched, over and over and over, I just sat here and laughed outloud! It just struck me so funny that your partner (I think you said it was your ex?) couldn't get it through his thick head that when you said, "Stop doing that you big jerk!" that what you REALLY meant was "Stop doing that you big jerk!", NOT "Yes, that feels soooooo good, please don't ever stop!" I'm not trying to make light of it, really believe me. Just it struck me so funny. Forgive me HB? Hey, maybe every time he pinched your nipple, you could have reached down and, uh, pinched a prize possession of his. Do you think that would have worked to get him to stop pinching you?? :) :) Love ya!

All I can say, Maggie is that I was not the person I am now back then. Let's just say that it would not happen twice with someone now, much less for over a decade. To paraphrase an old saying, "Pinch me once, shame on you. Pinch me twice, and your nuts go in a fist vice."

And guys? There is not one damned thing you can do in bed that ALL WOMEN on the planet will like. Plain and simple!

Speaking for myself, I'm somewhat amazed how so many women are actually programmed into a certain way of being intimate. Not all, but I have experienced on a few occasions that it seemed she had an idea how things were to progress.

Such as #1 do this, #2 do this, #3 do this and #4 do this. Kind of makes me giggle a little cause I know that that's exactly how they used to do things with their SO etc. It was like a sexual trip tic. Must be even worse these days with the voice of the On Star gal in your mind because you want to start at #3 without 1 and 2 prior.

I can only imagine how some ladies must feel knowing their latest partners also progress along the same exact route. Been there , done that, what T shirt ?

I guess some just don't realize these days, it's not about routine, it's about making this new romance into something new and exciting. I have never been one to follow any routine, wether it be social or intimate.

Shouldn't intimacy be more about communication ? Especially these days because as us men do get older we do experience lil problems with our ability to obtain and sustain said erections.

Personally, I havent had the pleasure of trying Viagra as of yet, it might be a kick for me, but there's just something about the idea of calling 911 cause I'm walking around with a 4 hr old erection that scares the bejesus outta me.

Plus I can't imagine how she must feel knowing it's a result of a pill vs. being turned on by her alone. Have to think that alone could end up ruining a possibly great new relationship.

Kinda like when she takes off the wig and the make up and walks back out of he bathroom and you have no idea who she is and where she came from. (lol)

(making a phone call)

Hello, is this AAA-AA ? Ok great, I'd like to order a trip tic for Donna, and 1 of Jan and you may as well toss in one for Mary too, who knows I may get lucky.

What's that ? Buy 3 get one free ? hmmmmmmm ok , toss in Betty as well always liked her.

What's that ? Viagara ? Ahhh...no thanks, I'll just go the old fashioned way, I'll earn it.

sgc...I may be wrong, but from what I understand is that the meds they have out there for ED don't just cause you to get an unplanned erection. It's in your system so that when the appropriate situation allows the interest in your SO to "create" that erection. In other words, it's pretty "natural." And as far as the chance of a 4 hr erection - I really kind of doubt that happens very often. (Kind of like if you take ABC medication you might end up losing control of your bladder - it's just a warning they have to give.)

Your probably right, it's their disclaimer so they have grounds not to be sued etc. I know Cialis says it has 2 forms one for soon and 1 more natural, something like that...Honestly I couldn't tell you about viagra
or any of them...I have also heard that many are being counterfeited too.

So i guess you need to know where your getting it from, which makes sense, but I am constantly bombarded with ads to buy that stuff and one has to wonder if it's real or not.

This has been such a good topic to bring up HB. Lots of comments from male and female alike. It is interesting the way male vs. female see it too. I am learning from this, even a tiny bit amused (nipple pinching :). SGC I see what you are saying about the pre-programmed sexual experience. Bummer that that is all you've had the pleasure of enjoying (enduring?). Just as my comment a bit ago that the men I've been with have all been basically self-centered and just seemed to want to please themselves and I was secondary, except for that one very special man who made the experience totally outstanding with his attentiveness, his romancing me... so I would guess it is the same with a special guy such as yourself and the women you've been with.

I am not sure how to break this cycle for men or for women. It seems like my observations are the same as yours, just from the opposite sex's point-of-view.

Maybe if you want something new and different, try being the first one to tell your mate that tonight you want to try something different. She will look at you surprised, bewildered. "Uh, what do you mean "different?" she will say, a little bit afraid of what your idea might be. Look at her lovingly and tell her that tonight is going to be all about HER. That you want to please her and take her to new heights. That first and foremost you want her to know that you love her and consider her to be the most beautiful woman on the face of the earth. Then light a candle or two and get out the bottle of lotion. Give her a long soothing massage, planting little kisses on her body here and there.

OK, so she might fall asleep since you have her so relaxed. If not, you can then look at her and ask her if she would like you to touch her tonight. She might just very well say, "honey, that felt so good...just lay here next to me and hold me close. That is all I want." Or she may be so relaxed that she will just turn you loose and let you have your way with her in any way you choose.

OR you can be like 99% of the guys out there and skip all of the above, and hop into bed, give her a few brief kisses, grab at her body not at all gently or tenderly, grab her hand and put it to your penis--as the goal here would not be to please your woman but to please #1, etc....

That is not making love with your woman. That is having sex pure and simple. I think most men are as programmed as women are with the mating ritual. Never mind that for most women, it is not even really about the sex itself, which is why the ED is not really an issue for us, whether our guys have it or not. The sex itself is not the goal, making love is.
So I think basically that maybe if you change your approach, her response just might surprise you. Unless you're good with the pre-programmed stuff, that is......