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quippen pleas a drum roll it makes my day: and use those caps
the dred scott decision said that no slavr e or descendant of a slave could be a U.S. citizen, or ever had been a U.S. citizen. thus making all blacks in America non citizen status. it then said that since they were not a citizen they had no rights to sue or go to court, This effected all blacks even in the three states that pre civil war gave blacks citizen ship rights - they lost them so quippan not being a citizen automaticaly makes one a slave? Almost how the Romans saw it?

17th Century Virginia Law -- any non-Christian or any individual from a non-Christian country could be enslaved. I wonder if that kind of thinking was typical of any other 'country(s)'?

DIRCK: WHERE do you think the Caribbean and Brazil got their slave & skin color attitudes? The United States has ALWAYS been able to easily export the worst of our culture. It's been almost impossible to export the best, like democracy. Furthermore your logic gives me a headache regarding the reasons Brazil and the Caribbean adopted the United States’ attitudes regarding skin color and slavery.

LIFELOVELAUGHTER: You obviously still miss the point. Yes, any non-Christian or any individual from a non-Christian country could be enslaved. BUT only in the USA was Christianity not an issue when it came to Black people and slavery. Black people were committed Christians, creating and singing sweet & haunting Negro spirituals while they slaved sun up to sun down in the fields and their white Christian owners prayed in church then traveled by train to the lynching out in the countryside. Brought a picnic basket with them. Real social occasion, it was. Even took pictures. Y'all want to see some photos? Talk about schizophrenia.

Additionally, pointing out that “free Blacks owned slaves” seems to be the first way white people in denial point out to assuage their discomfort with the whole subject. Your remarks are typical. “Free Blacks owning slaves” is akin to saying “Males also get abused by their spouses.” What’s your point?

YICHEL: I think you're deliberately being obtuse. The Dred Scott decision essentially held that Black people were NOT equal to white people as far as "personhood" is concerned. Since Black people were not "people" they were not entitled to protection under the law. Therefore they could not escape the reach of the Fugitive Slave Law that said essentially that no matter where a Black person was in the WORLD, if that Black person HAD BEEN a slave on Mr. Man's plantation, Mr. Man had a right to drag him back to the plantation and re-enslave him for the rest of your natural life.

1876 was AFTER the Civil War and the Emancipation Proclamation.
Of course there were free Black people then, but it also was the end of the Reconstruction period in US History and the beginnings of the Ku Klux Klan. Once more, white people blew a chance to make things right. A whole ‘nother discussion.

I’m about finished with this discussion.
It’s too draining to discourse with people who seem to have gotten their history lessons from comic books.

Anybody interested, open up your minds and stuff some real knowledge inside. Read the following:
1) “The Peculiar Institution” by Kenneth Stampp (correct spelling)
2) “Before the Mayflower,” by LeRone Bennett.

Both of these books are well-written, well-researched, and mesmerizing. They are both considered classics in the genre of U.S. History and the subject of American slavery.
NO ONE disputes the contents of these books. They are references for everything on the subject of American slavery.

Get informed, folks.
Maybe we’ll talk again when y’all are armed.
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if that Black person HAD BEEN a slave on Mr. Man's plantation, Mr. Man had a right to drag him back to the plantation and re-enslave him for the rest of your natural life.
excuse my obtuse what happebed if the black man was not a slave on the plantation Yes i know that some black people who were never slaves were grabbed and sold as such. I am curios isn't therole of skin color diffeent in the carribean then in north america?
i guess that is obtuse. where's the caps?

Peacewithin says,
. . . a theory along time ago about skin color effecting a persons position in society, regardless of race. The theory indicated the lighter the skin, the higher the status and opportunities. The darker skin was on the other end of the spectrum.

And let me guess, I have an idea that that theory was developed by white, eastern europeans.
Which is why so many of today's highest-class people spend their time tanning on the Riviera.

And that the larger African societies would disagree. Not to mention the Persian empire. A olive-skinned race that conquered most of the white european world. Not to mention the darker Romans who conquered the pasty English Isles, the Blonde Germans, and most of pasty-white Europe.

And let us not forget the theory that Lincoln's plan to free the slaves, was only done to create havoc in the South, and provide black soldiers for the Union Army. That originally, he had no intention to free anybody.

Quippian , never let the facts get in the way of your anti USA ranthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ History_of_slavery In Lisbon in 1552 , black slaves made up 10% of the population and the Spanish brought the first black slaves to Hispaniola in 1501 . If they were following the lead of the USA , then they must have been psychic , because the USA was still a couple of hundred years away from existing as a country and at least a hundred years away from its first white settlers .

crap , the link didn't take , trying again view link and here it says that black slaves started being imported into Brazil by 1550 view link it appears far more likely that the USA got the idea of using blacks for slaves from Brazil and the Caribbean , rather than the other way around

Color, difference in culture made it easier to trade in people of color as slaves. Subhuman, 'savages' was how they were thought of and treated as such.

The same rationale justified the killing off of native American Indians, Australia's aborigines, and to some extent the Chinese "coolies" imported to work the railroads. In recent times there are still 'scholars' who advance their theses that the black man, although human, is inferior. Inferior brain, incapable of deep, rational thought -- driven by primitive, primordal desires -- still a savage inside. Fortunatly, their numbers are dwindling, but some of these 'superior/inferior race' academic theorists still exist.

An opinion was asked for and that's mine.

In today's PC world , any scientist seeking to prove or disprove the notion of racial superiority/inferiority would immediately be attacked by the PC police and his work discredited , no matter what results it showed , so it is pretty doubtful that it will be proven one way or the other .