Message 1409 of 2054

just mistakes?

I once wrote a posting about how generals see. Now I am interested in how self glory, or miscommunications have effected battles or wars might you have a few good examples the few I have include
1. Montgomery in world war 2. operation Market Garden he wanted the “honor” of being the first to enter germany Missed got a lot of soldirs killed.
2. churchil & Gallipoli
3. MacArhur and the phillipines why he did not move the fighter planes off the run way so they were all destroyed in first few minutes of the Japanese attack
4. his leaving the Philapines with his and press agent leaving staff and all the wounded
5. battle of Gettysburg when lee lost ‘his eyes” the cavalery under longstreet took themselves out of the battle.
I figure any battle where Patten had to work with another regiment or army
yichel's profile
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Yichel , first a couple of quibbles about your points 2. Churchill and Gallipoli--- Churchill was a politician , not a general . Gallipoli was , I think, a good idea basically , that suffered from extremely poor execution . They first tried to force the straights with ships and lost several battleships and gave away the element of surprise . Then later when they did land troops , they landed in the wrong location and basically sat on their hands on the beach , allowing the Turks time to set up defenses , instead of immediately pushing in and taking the high ground , which was very lightly defended initially . 5. Gettysburg--- Lee's cavalry was under the command of J.E.B. Stuart , not Longstreet . Longstreet was an infantry commander . He was at Gettysburg and commanded one of Lee's 3 divisions .

over 2 years ago
sorry i stand corrected. ticked i got longstreet and stuart wrong

wasn't it longstreet who was against the direct attack Picketts charge?
yichel's profile

over 2 years ago
1. Gen. Mark Clark , after being held up for months at the Gustav Line near Monte Cassino and taking very high casualties , when he finally broke through near the western end of the Gustav Line, instead of circling east and cutting off most of the German troops manning the rest of the line , took off up the coast road because he wanted the honor of being the liberator of Rome . This allowed all of the German divisions to pull back intact and set up new defensive lines further north . 2. Virtually any Civil War battle when Hood commanded the Army of Tennessee . After Johnston had succeeded in staying in front of Sherman for months in a whole series of battles coming down through northern Georgia , retreating each time only as much as necessary to block Sherman when he tried to get around his flank , Jeff Davis and Braxton Bragg removed him from command and replaced him with Hood . In his first battle commanding The Army of Tennessee ,just outside Atlanta , Hood allowed Sherman to get around his flank because he refused to retreat . This enabled Sherman to capture and burn Atlanta . Then Hood took his army on a raid northward , leaving Sherman completely unopposed for his famous " march to the sea ". At Franklin , Tennessee , Hood , enraged because the Union force which he thought that he cut off got around him during the night, ordered his army to make a suicidal frontal assault across over 2 miles of open fields against a Union Army which was dug in behind fortified positions . He lost almost half of his army in that battle including 15 generals ( 6 killed , 8 wounded , 1 captured ). Hood then continued northward to Nashville where he attacked and was roundly beaten again , effectively destroying The Army of Tennesse as a fighting force . Hood was able , in 3 battles over a period of less than 5 months to effectively destroy the second largest army of the Confederacy .

over 2 years ago
Longstreet was not with the program for the entire battle . He was slow to respond to every order , did not press his attacks home , and argued against Pickett's charge . Incidentally , Hood's charge at Franklin was far more suicidal than Pickett's . Hood attacked with 19,000 men across 2 miles of open field , Pickett atacked with 12,000 men across 1/2 mile of open field .

over 2 years ago
My great-great grandfather's younger brother , Arthur Fulkerson , was Sergeant -Major of the 19th Tennessee regiment . He had fought in every battle involving The Army of Tennessee . At Franklin , he was the first man up on top of the Union barricades just by the Carter House . He was shot numerous times and fell down dead into the Union lines .

over 2 years ago
view link I hope this link works . this is a funny story involving Arthur .

over 2 years ago
a powerful story: one part funny ,one part prsonal horrifying and as i was reading it i was saying to myself hat just change the war/battle and the story remains the same.
I sometimes wished that i would take out a topographical map when reading this kind of material to see the distances and trrain they had to deal with. thanks
yichel's profile

over 2 years ago
The idea of walking over to the enemy and asking to borrow entrenching tools so that you can dig in to fight him AND HAVING HIM LEND THEM TO YOU , and then returning them to the enemy when you are done with them is just so bizarre that it sounds like a play written to expose the absudity of war .Neighborliness and common courtesy being shown to each other in between the times you are trying to kill each other for political reasons .

over 2 years ago
Dirck says,
. . . . Neighborliness and common courtesy being shown to each other in between the times you are trying to kill each other for political reasons .

Sounds bizarre, But then, there were cases in the Civil war, WW I, and WW II. Usually during the Holiday seasons where a sizable number of people were found to be fraternizing with the enemy. On both sides. At one time, it got so bad that the Americans had to retreat. Not because of the fighting, but because they were sharing their cigarettes and booze with the Germans for Christmas. It was deemed a "Lapse in Morale".
Baxtor's profile

over 2 years ago
the biggest screw uo ever had to be the last day of world war one the Armistice was to happen by 11:AM but for some reason please if anyone knows please respond the Allies at 7:30 AM sent a group over the top to which the usual machine gun and real; waste of life occurred. I read this in an article but i cannot recall or it did not have why this blunder happened.

yichel
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over 2 years ago
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