Message 2508 of 2902

TOO MUCH MISREPRESENTATION AGAINST MEXICO

I have seen and read so many things about Mexico that I have to speak out. I am a Mexican American. I was born in Ensenada, Mexico and came here when I was twenty. My parents didn't jump borders, they didn't crawl under any barbed wired fences. They came here legally and they have strived to become good and decent citizens of the United States of America. I have never known poverty in Mexico, where everyone is out to come here to better their life. We don't have the extravagance that the US has, but then when you think of the Mexican wages, compared to the wages here, it is almost the same. Mexico is cheap and what we make gives us a good life there and what we make here, makes a good life for us here as well. My father always loved the United States and as many Americans come and retire in Mexico, so do many Mexicans come here legally and raise their families and work hard and pay taxes, just like everyone else does. We even love this country more because we have sworn an allegence to it. It's like adopting a child, do you love it less than your own if you are a good person? No, you treat it equally. That is what we should have here. I work with illegal and legal Mexicans and from some poor areas, yes, they will come here illegally, but do you know what their lives are like once here? I am sure that all of you have seen the almost dead bodies coming across the border. The twenty people living in one room and sleeping in terrible conditions. Some fat cat getting them here and giving them horrendous conditions to live in and paying them only a few dollars for a hard days work. You have heard of it and it could be your father or your mother or your sister and brother. It could be you. But to condemn them for wanting a better life, is unfair. I hear that Mexican's don't want to learn English. Do you know how many have learned English? Do you realize that they are as human as you are? No one is a true American except for the Native American. I love America and consider myself one, but I am also Mexican, because like the Jewish lady wrote, she is a Jew. No matter that she loves this country, or you love this country, or your grandmother loves this country, bottom line is that we all have roots, deep roots that are our heritage and no matter what, we do have those ancestors in our heart. I heard a story from one of my aunts that migrated legally here about ten years ago and is a citizen now. She came with one little suitcase. When she opened the suitcase, under all of her clothes, was a little flag, a Mexican flag. She took a little bit of what we all are with her.
I know that I will get flack for this post, but I don't care. I work, my husband works, we pay taxes and my sons are in college. We speak and write English as do all of our friends. And if anyone wants to say "Go back." Well, then they should also leave my country. Many Americans live in Mexico, so the same could be said to them. I think that too many people cry of how poor Mexico is and for the fraction that does come here and causes trouble you are blaming a whole Nation. I am an American of Mexican descent and no one can take that away from me as no one can take your descent from you.
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Welcome Belitz.......you won't get flack here....most of us agree with you....I don't understand why people can't separate those who are here legally and those...regardless of nationality.....who are here illegally.

Immigration is a system set up to balance the flow of people into our country.....like a faucet on a water pipe.....when it works everything flows evenly....without the faucet all you get is a flood and floods cause serious damage.......
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about 1 year ago
Bravo! You are what we are all about. Each one of us. I am proud to have you here on the board and hope that you can discuss many things with us. I am like you, I am an American of Polish/French/Russian descent. I have been to Mexico as a tourist and I know what you speak of. I am really happy to have you here as I am sure that the whole group will be.
Welcome.

about 1 year ago
I am the third generation from immigrants who came to the USA from Quebec. They spoke no English when they got here. They were simple and mostly uneducated farmers who emigrated to find work in the textile industry that was booming in New England at the time. I was raised in a French home and spoke English as a second language. I graduated with an MBA and have had a wonderfull life as an Amerian citizen. I have been to Mexico often and absolutely love the country. I speak enough Spanish to be dangerous. One of my bogs is entitled, "I Could Live In Cuernavaca," a city where I studied Spanish and Mexican culture at the International Language School. I live in Florida now and am surrounded by Spanish speaking people. We need them to pick the fruit and do the many jobs that Americans will not take or we soon will be buying our fruits from Central America and the American fields will be abandoned. I believe in realistic quotas and a guest worker program that makes sense.
However, it is always the case that people stereotype against any race or people they fear or dislike. The issues on the border are complex. Reasonable minds need to work out solutions. Hatered is never the solution.
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about 1 year ago
G. and mg. I agree with both of you and I am glad to have you both here. It's true, that we do tend to stereotype people by the actions of a few. Thank you for welcoming our new member in such an intelligent and warm way.

about 1 year ago
I know what you mean. Just because of a few roudy or criminal blacks, I have also felt the wrath of some. It's a shame that one or two, or even a hundred bad acts, make all the people, in my case, blacks, bad. Even the ones that say that they are your friends, well, we all know what they think. But then there are the real ones. The ones who do not see anything but a person, no matter what nationality or color. Those are the people that make this country what it is. A place for all of us to live. We are all brothers and sisters. Yes, I know exactly what you mean and I think that you are a brave woman for coming forth and voicing it. Thank you for sharing this.

about 1 year ago
Belitz,everyone should be proud of their heritage.
However,I disagree that all of this immigration talk,should be focused on all illegals and not just on Mexico.
Yes, it is sad about illegals that are found dead by the border,but what about the people that from Hati,Cuba,China or other Countries,that try to come accross by sea and drown or die from starvation or from Mother Nature.
As for jobs that Americans don't want,it might have applied years ago,but these are of changing times.
A poor person,will take any job,to provide for their families.
The upper class,in most cases,might fit into that sterotype,but that applies to every country.
Even the upper class,had to go for lower positions,when they had mass layoffs in NYC, during the fiascos of 911.


about 1 year ago
No flak from here Belitz. I live in Texas,e have a long pro/con history with Mexico ,but have meld into a TexMex culture that is unique. You brought up something that I have thought alot about as I read the post here lately,and that is the large number of people (and increasing all the time) from The States that are retiring in Mexico because it is so much more economical for them live. live in an area where the majority of my neighbors are Spanish speaking--and by far the majority of tem are here legally. My next door neighbors are a good example. They came here with 3 small children,both work and are buying the little house next door. They have struggled to learn English and are getting better everyday. Their children became the best friends of my granddaughters while they were staying with me spending much of their time here,and coming for sleepovers. Their kids call me grandma--the only name they know for me. hey have helped many of their family members to gain legal admittance to the counrty as well.

Something we should keep in mind is that we are United States -Americans. Canada,and Mexico are in America as well. These are our neighbors and there should be more immigration allowed between these countries. Of course it does need to be legal--no matter what country someone comes from.

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about 1 year ago
I think that it applies to any group of people that are not understood. I am gay and I have also been in situations where I am considered less than a human and had a encounters with people who hate me. I cannot change them, but I have changed myself. I am not ashamed anymore and I am proud to be gay.
I am Italian by heritage, but an American. Italians also were seen as ugly and mafia types and now we are not seen that way.
I didn't quite understand what Cheechee was trying to say. You were speaking of Mexico getting misrepresented, I am sure other people are as well, but today the focus is on that Mexican border. I am sorry that so many good people, who do come here legally and do contribute to this wonderful country of ours have to endure what the few ignorant chose to fling. But I love Mexico, always go there, have been there just recently, in Cozumel and have to say that Mexicans are warm hearted people willing to share. So, I am an American of Italian heritage and you are an American of Mexican heritage. Long live our cultures.

about 1 year ago
I too am a second generation American. My grandparents on my mothers side came in the 20s. So I understand the desire to come here and the hard work it takes to do it legally. My grandmother and two of her children had to stay in the Old Country 3 years before they could come here the Legal way. And I also understand your loyality to your home Country.
That being said I am curiuos. How do you feel about the Illegal Immigrant? Do you blame them or do you blame the Businesses that exploit them?What do you think is a fair solution? Should those who came Illegally be granted immunity for their actions? Should the exploiters in the Business Community be Prosecuted?
I understand the desire to come but who profits from this Trade in Human life? The problem is here and now What to do about is a hard question at best. One which is both emotional and driven from many sides. My personal thought is that business is most at fault for not stating its true position. That is only the desire for cheap labor no matter what the consequences to those that they exploit or to the Country that supports them. The ones in the middle turn out to be people who are just trying to live better. The bad part is that somewhere in there is a large number of Illegal acts. Who answers for the stolen Identities the damaged credit and SS Benefits? The user of the identity? The Employer who turns his head to allow the use of an obvious Fake Identity without proper checks so that he may profit by offering lower wages?
Perhaps you have an oppinion that we all can get some Education from. Please let us know how you feel about your adopted country and this Problem.

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about 1 year ago
Shotgun, I enjoyed reading your thread and hope that Beliza comes back to answer your questions. I feel that it's the corporate world that really encourages these actions and that they should be held responsible. If there are no jobs open to illegals, then they would not come here. But, I do wish to hear what she has to say. Excellent questions asked in a very polite and intelligent way. Thank you.

about 1 year ago
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