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Pictographs and Petroglyphs

According to Native American friends of mine, at least some of the
pictograph and petroglyph characters were creatures envisioned by
participants during sacred ceremonies which usually involved eating,
smoking, drinking or snorting hallucinogens. Many Native American
cultures of the past from North, Central and South America - as well as in
other parts of the world - used psychoactive substances and there are those
who use them today as well. Most often these are peyote, mushrooms
(psilocybin) or jimson weed though other substances are also used. I’ve
seen many pictographs (pictures painted on walls) and petroglyphs
(pictures chipped into rock) in the southwest since I moved to NM 36 yrs
ago and they include figures that look like space-suited aliens, spacecraft,
giraffes (an animal not known to ever have existed in the Americas),
people with square heads or crescent heads and fantastic flying creatures
that run the gamut from harpies (birds with human female heads) to
pterosaurs and just about everything in between. Art on cave or canyon
walls or rocks is not proof that dinosaurs existed any more than it proves
space aliens visited them, just that those who painted those figures were
on some righteously awesome trips to be able to visualize such things. I
reiterate the point that all the dinosaur bones found date to the age of the
dinosaurs. None of more recent vintage have ever been found. Even if our
present means of dating doesn’t yield perfectly accurate to-the-moment-
of-death results, the margin of error is off by a few thousand years at most,
not tens of millions of years. I am all for keeping an open mind and
exploring other ideas as long as they are plausible but I cannot in all
seriousness entertain the notion that dinosaurs survived the extinction
event then either hid out somewhere for 65 million years or continued to
reproduce in hiding for all that time only to reappear in Biblical or Mayan
times all without leaving any bones as tangible evidence.
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Espirit's profile

about 1 year ago
Yes Espirit, the link you provided is the one I went to in Utah perhaps in about 1992 or '93. I remember that there were natives there selling jewelry and artcraft.
RubiconIII's profile

about 1 year ago
REALLY? I wish they had been there when I went.....I always wished I could have bought stuff right from the people who made them. I was really awed by some of the things I saw.
Espirit's profile

about 1 year ago
now i found where i have seen the turtle bug.
found a newspaper article from july 13th this year and a big 1/2 page picture of the rock at Hart Mt. it was article about rock art.
will444doylee's profile

about 1 year ago
Thank you espirit,
I love this spot, there are so many things to see. Huecho Tanks id the corect spelling for the place in El Passo. It meaans concave area..it held water. It is nice to have found u all. Thank you for the great links and pictures.
Have any of you read the clan of the cave Bear series? Jean Auril (sp?) It is fairly well researched I think, of course the herione is the one who invents or finds everything, but if you like this stuff it is a great book to take you back to anacient days and get a peak of what it might have been like. I read the first one years ago, then I discovered she had written 4 other books whick I just loved.
ayla1711's profile

about 1 year ago
I read and really enjoyed the first one "Clan of the cave bear" I found it interesting and very well done. The herbs and things to make medicine and all that was well researched.
Unfortunately I did not find the rest of the books the same. She seemed to have realized she was on to a good thing and just whipped those out without the research she did for the first one. The mammoth hunters.....seemed like it was just an excuse for writing about sex.....I did not find the first one to be anything like that. No one else has done such a good job as she did in the Clan of the Cave Bear, all those others who tried to jump on the band wagon failed I think.
Espirit's profile

about 1 year ago
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