I have already discussed in some detail the dynamics of cyber sex VS real sex, and I guess I am ready now to tackle the subject of cyber friendships VS "real" friendship....
Many times there is no distinction -- the people that you hang out with online you also hang out with "in real life", at least as often as you are able to get together with distance constraints, etc.... you both know who the other one "really is", you have been to their house and they have been to yours, you have met their spouse and/or family and they have met yours. Sometimes these friendships started out in the cyber realm and crossed after into the "real" as you grew closer and wanted to take it to the next step.
Other times these cyber friendship exist only in the computer screen and keyboard. I have one such long term friendship -- we have "known" each other for many years, we have each been to hell and back in our lives, and helped and supported each other through it all -- and we have never met and most likely never will. And the sad reality is that maybe we wouldn't like each other as much if we did, I don't know....
I have made lots of cyber friends here at Eons, and don't get me wrong, I really value them -- they have been a lifeline to me, and I don't know what I would ever do without them now. But sometimes you just need to talk to someone who is sitting right across the room from you.
I am going to make an uncomfortable admission here that is hard to put into type and have stare back at me in accusation -- I have no "real" friends. Not a one -- haven't for many years.
I have old friends from way way way back that every five years I see at my high school reunion and we are very happy to see each other, and then we go our separate ways and lead separate lives. I guess they are still my friends and always will be, but only in a certain sense....
It was not always this way -- when we lived in Florida years ago I had a large circle of friends that we all hung out together and our kids played together and we talked on the phone and went to each other's houses for dinner and.... but then we moved away.
I have touched on part of the problem here -- the fact that we are a couple of rolling stones -- we move a lot -- we jokingly call it our "5 year plan" -- over the course of our 27 year marriage we have moved more than 30 times, sometimes only across town, sometimes across country -- we have lived in 6 different states (so far). We can never seem to last more than 5 years in one geographic location -- we get sand in our shoes and a yen for the open road and adventure, or life sucks where we are and we think we can improve it if we move to fill-in-the-blanks. The psychology behind this is fascinating and perhaps the topic of a future post -- but for now I am discussing one of the results of being such a rolling stone...
In the past I never had trouble connecting with new people and making friends wherever we go -- anywhere we lived the church we went to was my social life, and I was very involved in activities, and had lots of people to hang out with and do stuff with. But I had stopped going to church about 6 months before we left Florida (again, the potential subject of a future blog). So it has been different since we came to Missouri in 2004.
I am going to make a painful admission here -- the reason I am so isolated is that I have almost purposely distanced myself from other people and kept them at arms length. Once again, the reasons are quite complex and I have a real understanding of the whys and wherefores -- hubby and I are both amateur psychologists/psychiatrists and we love to analyze what we do and why -- so I am not sitting here saying "oh woe is me - why has this happened to me? oh I am such a victim of circumstances" - if I am victim of anything it is of myself and my screwy thought process, which I can blame on nothing or no one else, and really do not even blame on myself. It's just the way it is.
I am a very bottom line person. There is only so much benefit one can get from listing the reasons why something is the way it is. I know why I have no friends. And it's not because I am not friendly or don't know how to relate to people or connect with people or how to be a friend in return -- I know how to do all of that perfectly well, I have just chosen not to since we got to Missouri and I am reaping the results now.
So I am now making a real effort to lower my defenses and reach out to people at work - I believe that you can give off subconscious hostile stay-way-from-me vibes even as you laugh and act sociable, which is what I have been doing the last few years. I am making a concerted effort to stop doing that - I need a "real" friend, someone to hang out with and go shopping with and go out to lunch with and who you can tell anything to and they will not judge you and who also trusts you with their deep dark innermost secrets.
As a way of meeting new people in lieu of the ladies Bible studies I used to be involved in years ago, I have half considered joining the "Red Hat Society" -- they have several active branches around here -- or maybe getting a membership at the Y and going to work out -- or taking a course at the community college -- I have not decided yet, but I know I am going to do something to shake things up --
And I will keep you all posted here at my progress in making this happen......
cyber friends VS "real" friends
posted 2 months ago, updated 6 minutes later
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- 1. 2 months ago EsmeraldaR wrote:
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I think I am a lot like you. At this point in my life I have two real friends, both male. One is a little eccentric and the other is just plain crazy. I've made friends at work, but I haven't stayed at any job for long enough to have real friends there. I've temped a lot and I'm probably going to be doing that again. I do move around a lot, but I've pretty much stayed in the same state. I have made friends on line that I've met in real life but they usually live in different states so I don't stay in touch.
I do keep to myself a lot. It might have something to do with being an only child and being used to my own company. Like you, I think I should be doing more to make friends. On my last job I got along with everyone even though the work environment could be stressful. As I mentioned earlier both of my real life friends are male. I have had female friends at other periods of my life. I think I have trouble trusting other women and I always think they are going to be judgmental. It's a lot easier to socialize with people online because they don't know who I really am and aren't going to tell me everything that's wrong with my life. I do believe that the reason I don't have many friends is that I want to keep myself isolated. If you don't try you don't get hurt. Overcoming that is the hard part.
- 2. 2 months ago jugeebean wrote:
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I've never been much on friends. especially females, they tend to be odd and their mood can turn on a dime. i've never been a typical female. when i was young i actually wanted to DO things, not stand around and giggle at boys. i had male friends, but not many girl friends. i'm not saying i'm not a complicated female, but i've never had a problem answering questions honestly, like how much i weigh, etc... i don't like to play mind games or work to figure out what the hell you're talking about. on the other hand, i have four sisters, and they've filled that void and i can trust them and they don't typically get jealous.
also, relationships take work, and i guess i'm just too lazy :-) if i need to talk i can call my sister and unload on her and visa versa. i can go weeks without calling her and she'll still love me and won't read anything into it. i can call her everyday for weeks, and she'll still answer the phone.
- 3. 2 months ago Lollykoko wrote:
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Boy, do I ever relate to many of your admissions. I've always been a loner by choice. But recent retirement has shown me how much I relied on my workplace 'friendships'. My face friends tend to be male and of long duration. My female friends are usually relatives. I've even lived in the same town for twenty years! Your ideas of places to reach out sound really great. I'm sure you will spot more possibilities as you go along.
- 4. 2 months ago OKScissortail wrote:
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Perhaps you needed a "vacation" from the demands of friendship. It may have lasted longer than was good for you, but you're ready to fix that now. Strength to you as you take those first steps. We all know how tough that is.
- 5. 2 months ago IrishHeart wrote:
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wow! you are peering into parts of my own life. i now sit in FL with no TRUE friends; i have but two friends; ironically, one is my ex-husband who lives with his new wife and their two children only 30 minutes away. the other is a friend from work - i haven't been able to work for the past 5 years due to disability caused by MS. she and i remained seemingly close for a few months after i "retired" and we have drifted oceans apart since then. i am 55, single, no job and my children are all grown - it's just me! she is 51, married and 1 sixteen y/o son and a full time job, so she doesn't really have the time for friendship anymore and i miss her. hence, i have no friends in the actual world,but a few good friends in the virtual world-courtesy of EONS. i hope someday to meet them-they are good people. like you i am getting ready to go to the fitness center (i really need it too) and in the fall i will begin helping to teach the adult RCIA program at my parish. i look forward to that. maybe the residual effects will be friendship-maybe not. yes = it's lonely at the top (the middle and the bottom).
- 6. 2 months ago youngathart wrote:
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good luck with the Red Hats, I didn't find any friends with them, only what one of the ladys wanted, everyone had to follow. I now have desided I am better off alone.
- 7. 2 months ago starrybright wrote:
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I've enjoyed reading your blog. thank you for being transparent. Its easy too hide who you really are here.
It's because of that reason my goal here on eons is to be open about the multi faceted Starrybright. I am told I can be complex, although I don't see it. I think I am pretty much an open book.The part I'm working on is voicing who I am. People assume a lot and sometimes it's a disappointment. Hey its not anyones fault, they are just trying to do their best too. So I choose to be a little more transparent.
I love some of my on-line friends as if we have already sipped coffee while chatting at my kitchen table. I didn't know it was possible but it is a blessing.
Arms length friendships are sometimes nessasary, you should choose wisely in the game of all friendships, rather cyber or not.
Starrybright
- 8. 2 months ago suzieb wrote:
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I, like you, tend to keep people at a distance. I have friends that I occasionally do things with...and I cherish those times. But I'm a loner. I'm not even married, at least you have a partner in life, maybe that's good, maybe not. I have art as my friend, when I'm lonely, I draw or paint. Sometimes, when I do go out with friends, I think of being at home in my studio with some nice music and wine. I think we can be friends with ourselves and be fine with that.....I wouldn't beat myself up about it. Cherish your self, love yourself, it's OK. Suz
- 9. 2 months ago KarenBee wrote:
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Update -- well, I have done it -- I have made a friend -- a guy at work that I have really hit it off with -- we have already been out together twice and I will most likely see him this weekend --
it is good to be out in the real world interacting and connecting with flesh and blood people again --