She was only 19 and he was 20. She was the youngest daughter of 13 and he was a street wise young man that admired her from afar. They were neighbors growing up on the same dirt street. She claims her only attraction to him was that he could dance and his dark Mesoamerican skin color. She was a fair skinned beauty and very well protected by her older brothers. To dance with her he had to have the nerve to ask her in the presence of her father and brothers.
Somehow he got the courage to get padrinos to go to her house and command an appearance before her father to ask for her hand in marriage. The first time her father sent him a message, if he was man enough to want her as his wife he would have to come ask for her hand himself. She claims she married him because her parents told her he would be a good provider.
My parents were married January 9, 1943 in a simple ceremony. She wore a tiny white dress and he in a dark suit. Her wedding band was bought at the 5 &10 cent store. That was all they could afford. The festivities were held in the dirt street in front of their homes. Music and food was provided by family, friends and neighbors. The guests danced in the dirt street. His mother did not attend as she did not approve of the marriage. She was forced to watch the celebration from behind closed doors.
Their honeymoon was spent with her sister where they were given a make shift bed on the floor.
Soon after the wedding he left to go serve his country during WWII. A year later they had their first son, his namesake Victor. Dad never got to bond with his son because he was on active military duty.
My mom is a woman that mentally was way ahead of the times. She took his military pay and saved until she could buy a city lot. After the lot was paid off she went to the bank and got a loan to build a house. Imagine a Latino woman in the 1940’s walking into a bank to get a personal loan. By the time dad was out of the military he came home to a new house. A second son was born, followed by muah, my sister and younger brother.
We were so lucky to have been raised by parents that stuck it out through thick and thin. There were hard times but my grandparents were right, dad was always a good provider.
We celebrated each milestone anniversary. There has always been music and dancing. Dancing was always their passion and they danced so beautifully that people would stop to watch. They look so grand, him holding her at arm’s length and her holding her head high as they feet flowed in unison.
Their 50th anniversary was celebrated in grand style. They renewed their wedding vows and had all their children as their padrinos. Their 55th was celebrated and honored by my daughter getting married on their day. They were my daughter’s padrinos de lasso. That was 10 years ago and my daughter and son in law are still happily married so maybe it was that magical day that brought them the success of their marriage. As with my parents, my daughter’s in laws did not want them to marry.
Their 65th is coming up. As a family we have not been able to plan a celebration. My mom just got out of the hospital on the 23rd and yesterday was taken back to the hospital where she remains in intensive care. I picked up dad today to take him to visit his wife of almost 65 years. He shuffled into her hospital room, over to her bed and picked up her hand and kissed it. This has become the most common way of sharing his love as it gets harder and harder to bend down to kiss her lips. His mamita as he calls her was feeling better but he could not stay at her side as he would like to. As they have gotten older these separations caused by hospital stays have become more frequent.
They raised their children and for years have had only each other to care for. The food Nazi as we loving call mom cannot hold vigil from afar of what he is consuming. I am sure she has the equivalent dietician’s degree by reading everything in sight about what he can or should not eat.
Neither one wants to give up on life because they don’t want to leave the other behind.
As I dropped dad off to an empty house I wondered what he must be feeling. I tried to talk him into coming home with me but he chose to stay home. What must be going through his mind as he crawls into an empty bed that is normally shared by his partner? What about eating dinner alone instead of sharing and caring for each other?
Is this what life is all about? Do we go through life looking for the perfect mate only to be broken hearted when the time comes to answer God’s call? This beautiful fun energetic couple has become old and dependant on the children they bore. Once surrounded by all their couple friends they find that they have out lived all of them and are once again where they started, alone. What kind of person stays at your side through thick and thin, is there to watch what you eat, helps you in and out of bed, helps you remember doctor appointments and reminds you to take your medications. Is this what we want out of life and long for? If God gives them their health for a bit longer, we will celebrate their 65th with a family party. This relationship story will end as it started, with love and simplicity…..


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The greatest loves are the quiet ones who live their moments. You obviously are so sensitive you are aware of them and you feel deeply. It's a beautiful thing, recognition, because it means that their life is not in vain.
I would love to send a bottle if you have the party for them and if you don't, I would like to hear more of your impressions of this great love.
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Sometimes I get upset at myself because like the movie "Like water for Chocolate" they lean more on the daughters than the sons and I get frustrated. I am tired but I will continue to serve them until their last days. Like PJ says I know that when one goes the other will follow shortly and I am preparing myself for that. Thank you for your comments.
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You are where you need to be; spending time with them. Parents gave so much of their time and energy to take care of their family. The love that they gave was endless and the least we can do is give endless love. Thanks for sharing such a loving story of your Mama and Papa.
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Que cuento tan bello. Your parents remind me of mine. I realize now I fastfoward to one year later and look at what you have. You have your Bob and your Papi is still here. You have a beautiful soul and a laugh that soothes the heart...all due to your uniquely yours mama y papa.
The other night when you called me? Well, that was God knocking at my door telling me that He does answer prayers and he does listen when we most need HIM. You were an angel who came calling that night as I was in need of a friend.
I will pray for your papi. But, I believe that he will be dancing cheek to cheek with his "queen" again.
God Bless You and Bob and for sharing such a lovely story.
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How profound your question. Unaswerable without recognition of a set of precepts. Each laid line upon line to create the answer. This was given to each of us in Heaven prior to our departure. In the Grand Council in Heaven each of us were given the option of accepting the great plan of salvation. Those of us who did accept, kept our first estate. Fully a third of all the host of Heaven rebelled and there was war in Heaven and they lost their estate.
Each person that accepted this plan in the premortal life remembers it not. Because of the veil between us here on the earth and that place that our first father and mother, Adam and Eve, left.
The first understanding or precept comes in this following event in Matthew 16.
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And here is the first priciple to understand QVO. How are we to be sure if what I write here or someone professes something to me or you is true? We are taught in this passage from the bible that Peter was made aware of a truth. Not because of what a person told him, but because the Holy Spirit which touches all men, confirmed the truth to Peter.
As I attempt to answer your question, so dear to your heart. Yea to your very soul. And not only for you, but for the benefit of your entire family history. Which is refered to in Malachi in the Old Testament as both "branch and root". In other words, both living and dead. You will need to ponder these things in your heart. And after pondering these things you will need to pray, in earnest, believing that you will receive an answer, then truth will be revealed to you by the power of the Holy Spirit. And thus will you start building of a testimony of truth which leads not just to immortal life but to life eternal.
You remember me mentioning a pink brick house? It was built on a lot where my step-dad had previously built a shot-gun home for his mom. When he began to build the pink brick home for my mom, he move the existing house over to the edge of the lot. We later, Dad and I, remodeled that old house. Dad rented it to a man from Finland, Mr. Swain. Mr. Swain paid his rent in advance on a yearly basis. He was a merchant marine just like my dad. Mr. Swain would be away for six months and home for six months. I asked my mom if I could live in the house when it was empty. I was in the fifth grade. I would sleep there then run across the driveway and into the house in the morning to eat, shower and get to elementary school.
While I was there I found a book in the headboard of the only piece of furniture in the house. It is from that book, found so very long ago that I know the things which a write here that you might learn the things that I learned so very long ago. That the things you learn will answer your question, "Is this what we look for all our lives?"
It is in this wise that you ask your question. For if the joy that your parents learned in this world were to end would it not be hope for an eternal marriage be what you would hope for as an answer?
The following is taken from The Book Of Alma. In this reading Alma is speaking to his youngest son. The first chapter was included to give you a reference point of what is going on and does not pertain to the subject matter I am attempting to address. It is actually the next two chapters that pertain to the reality of what happens after we leave this earth.
THE BOOK OF ALMA
THE SON OF ALMA
The commandments of Alma to his son Corianton. Comprising chapters 39 to 42 inclusive.
CHAPTER 39
Sexual sin is an abomination—Corianton’s sins kept the Zoramites from receiving the word—Christ’s redemption is retroactive in saving the faithful who preceded it.
About 73 B.C.
1 And now, my son, I have somewhat more to say unto thee than what I said unto thy brother; for behold, have ye not observed the steadiness of thy brother, his faithfulness, and his diligence in keeping the commandments of God? Behold, has he not set a good example for thee?
2 For thou didst not give so much heed unto my words as did thy brother, among the people of the Zoramites. Now this is what I have against thee; thou didst go on unto boasting in thy strength and thy wisdom.
3 And this is not all, my son. Thou didst do that which was grievous unto me; for thou didst forsake the ministry, and did go over into the land of Siron among the borders of the Lamanites, after the harlot Isabel.
4 Yea, she did steal away the hearts of many; but this was no excuse for thee, my son. Thou shouldst have tended to the ministry wherewith thou wast entrusted.
5 Know ye not, my son, that these things are an abomination in the sight of the Lord; yea, most abominable above all sins save it be the shedding of innocent blood or denying the Holy Ghost?
6 For behold, if ye deny the Holy Ghost when it once has had place in you, and ye know that ye deny it, behold, this is a sin which is unpardonable; yea, and whosoever murdereth against the light and knowledge of God, it is not easy for him to obtain forgiveness; yea, I say unto you, my son, that it is not easy for him to obtain a forgiveness.
7 And now, my son, I would to God that ye had not been guilty of so great a crime. I would not dwell upon your crimes, to harrow up your soul, if it were not for your good.
8 But behold, ye cannot hide your crimes from God; and except ye repent they will stand as a testimony against you at the last day.
9 Now my son, I would that ye should repent and forsake your sins, and go no more after the lusts of your eyes, but cross yourself in all these things; for except ye do this ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God. Oh, remember, and take it upon you, and cross yourself in these things.
10 And I command you to take it upon you to counsel with your elder brothers in your undertakings; for behold, thou art in thy youth, and ye stand in need to be nourished by your brothers. And give heed to their counsel.
11 Suffer not yourself to be led away by any vain or foolish thing; suffer not the devil to lead away your heart again after those wicked harlots. Behold, O my son, how great iniquity ye brought upon the Zoramites; for when they saw your conduct they would not believe in my words.
12 And now the Spirit of the Lord doth say unto me: Command thy children to do good, lest they lead away the hearts of many people to destruction; therefore I command you, my son, in the fear of God, that ye refrain from your iniquities;
13 That ye turn to the Lord with all your mind, might, and strength; that ye lead away the hearts of no more to do wickedly; but rather return unto them, and acknowledge your faults and that wrong which ye have done.
14 Seek not after riches nor the vain things of this world; for behold, you cannot carry them with you.
15 And now, my son, I would say somewhat unto you concerning the coming of Christ. Behold, I say unto you, that it is he that surely shall come to take away the sins of the world; yea, he cometh to declare glad tidings of salvation unto his people.
16 And now, my son, this was the ministry unto which ye were called, to declare these glad tidings unto this people, to prepare their minds; or rather that salvation might come unto them, that they may prepare the minds of their children to hear the word at the time of his coming.
17 And now I will ease your mind somewhat on this subject. Behold, you marvel why these things should be known so long beforehand. Behold, I say unto you, is not a soul at this time as precious unto God as a soul will be at the time of his coming?
18 Is it not as necessary that the plan of redemption should be made known unto this people as well as unto their children?
19 Is it not as easy at this time for the Lord to asend his angel to declare these glad tidings unto us as unto our children, or as after the time of his coming?
CHAPTER 40
Christ bringeth to pass the resurrection of all men—The righteous dead go to paradise and the wicked to outer darkness to await the day of their resurrection—All things shall be restored to their proper and perfect frame in the resurrection.
About 73 B.C.
1 Now my son, here is somewhat more I would say unto thee; for I perceive that thy mind is worried concerning the resurrection of the dead.
2 Behold, I say unto you, that there is no resurrection—or, I would say, in other words, that this mortal does not put on immortality, this corruption does not put on incorruption—until after the coming of Christ.
3 Behold, he bringeth to pass the resurrection of the dead. But behold, my son, the resurrection is not yet. Now, I unfold unto you a mystery; nevertheless, there are many mysteries which are kept, that no one knoweth them save God himself. But I show unto you one thing which I have inquired diligently of God that I might know—that is concerning the resurrection.
4 Behold, there is a time appointed that all shall come forth from the dead. Now when this time cometh no one knows; but God knoweth the time which is appointed.
5 Now, whether there shall be one time, or a second time, or a third time, that men shall come forth from the dead, it mattereth not; for God knoweth all these things; and it sufficeth me to know that this is the case—that there is a time appointed that all shall rise from the dead.
6 Now there must needs be a space betwixt the time of death and the time of the resurrection.
7 And now I would inquire what becometh of the souls of men from this time of death to the time appointed for the resurrection?
8 Now whether there is more than one time appointed for men to rise it mattereth not; for all do not die at once, and this mattereth not; all is as one day with God, and time only is measured unto men.
9 Therefore, there is a time appointed unto men that they shall rise from the dead; and there is a space between the time of death and the resurrection. And now, concerning this space of time, what becometh of the souls of men is the thing which I have inquired diligently of the Lord to know; and this is the thing of which I do know.
10 And when the time cometh when all shall rise, then shall they know that God knoweth all the times which are appointed unto man.
11 Now, concerning the state of the soul between death and the resurrection—Behold, it has been made known unto me by an angel, that the spirits of all men, as soon as they are departed from this mortal body, yea, the spirits of all men, whether they be good or evil, are taken home to that God who gave them life.
12 And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of those who are righteous are received into a state of happiness, which is called paradise, a state of rest, a state of peace, where they shall rest from all their troubles and from all care, and sorrow.
13 And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of the wicked, yea, who are evil—for behold, they have no part nor portion of the Spirit of the Lord; for behold, they chose evil works rather than good; therefore the spirit of the devil did enter into them, and take possession of their house—and these shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth, and this because of their own iniquity, being led captive by the will of the devil.
14 Now this is the state of the souls of the wicked, yea, in darkness, and a state of awful, fearful looking for the fiery dindignation of the wrath of God upon them; thus they remain in this estate, as well as the righteous in paradise, until the time of their resurrection.
15 Now, there are some that have understood that this state of happiness and this state of misery of the soul, before the resurrection, was a first resurrection. Yea, I admit it may be termed a resurrection, the raising of the spirit or the soul and their consignation to happiness or misery, according to the words which have been spoken.
16 And behold, again it hath been spoken, that there is a first resurrection, a resurrection of all those who have been, or who are, or who shall be, down to the resurrection of Christ from the dead.
17 Now, we do not suppose that this first resurrection, which is spoken of in this manner, can be the resurrection of the souls and their consignation to happiness or misery. Ye cannot suppose that this is what it meaneth.
18 Behold, I say unto you, Nay; but it meaneth the reuniting of the soul with the body, of those from the days of Adam down to the resurrection of Christ.
19 Now, whether the souls and the bodies of those of whom has been spoken shall all be reunited at once, the wicked as well as the righteous, I do not say; let it suffice, that I say that they all come forth; or in other words, their resurrection cometh to pass before the resurrection of those who die after the resurrection of Christ.
20 Now, my son, I do not say that their resurrection cometh at the resurrection of Christ; but behold, I give it as my opinion, that the souls and the bodies are reunited, of the righteous, at the resurrection of Christ, and his ascension into heaven.
21 But whether it be at his resurrection or after, I do not say; but this much I say, that there is a space between death and the resurrection of the body, and a state of the soul in happiness or in misery until the time which is appointed of God that the dead shall come forth, and be reunited, both soul and body, and be brought to stand before God, and be judged according to their works.
22 Yea, this bringeth about the restoration of those things of which has been spoken by the mouths of the prophets.
23 The soul shall be restored to the body, and the body to the soul; yea, and every limb and joint shall be restored to its body; yea, even a hair of the head shall not be lost; but all things shall be restored to their proper and perfect frame.
24 And now, my son, this is the restoration of which has been aspoken by the mouths of the prophets—
25 And then shall the righteous shine forth in the kingdom of God.
26 But behold, an awful adeath cometh upon the wicked; for they die as to things pertaining to things of righteousness; for they are unclean, and no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of God; but they are cast out, and consigned to partake of the fruits of their labors or their works, which have been evil; and they drink the dregs of a bitter cup
CHAPTER 41
In the resurrection men come forth to a state of endless happiness or endless misery—Wickedness never was happiness—Carnal men are without God in the world—Every person receives again in the restoration the characteristics and attributes acquired in mortality.
About 73 B.C.
1 And now, my son, I have somewhat to say concerning the restoration of which has been spoken; for behold, some have wrested the scriptures, and have gone far astray because of this thing. And I perceive that thy mind has been worried also concerning this thing. But behold, I will explain it unto thee.
2 I say unto thee, my son, that the plan of restoration is requisite with the justice of God; for it is requisite that all things should be restored to their proper order. Behold, it is requisite and just, according to the power and resurrection of Christ, that the soul of man should be restored to its body, and that every part of the body should be restored to itself.
3 And it is requisite with the justice of God that men should be judged according to their works; and if their works were good in this life, and the desires of their hearts were good, that they should also, at the last day, be restored unto that which is good.
4 And if their works are evil they shall be restored unto them for evil. Therefore, all things shall be restored to their proper order, every thing to its natural frame—mortality raised to immortality, corruption to incorruption—raised to endless happiness to inherit the kingdom of God, or to endless misery to inherit the kingdom of the devil, the one on one hand, the other on the other—
5 The one raised to happiness according to his desires of happiness, or good according to his desires of good; and the other to evil according to his desires of evil; for as he has desired to do evil all the day long even so shall he have his reward of evil when the night cometh.
6 And so it is on the other hand. If he hath repented of his sins, and desired righteousness until the end of his days, even so he shall be rewarded unto righteousness.
7 These are they that are redeemed of the Lord; yea, these are they that are taken out, that are delivered from that endless night of darkness; and thus they stand or fall; for behold, they are their own judges, whether to do good or do evil.
8 Now, the decrees of God are unalterable; therefore, the way is prepared that whosoever will may walk therein and be saved.
9 And now behold, my son, do not risk aone more offense against your God upon those points of doctrine, which ye have hitherto risked to commit sin.
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.
11 And now, my son, all men that are in a state of anature, or I would say, in a carnal state, are in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity; they are without God in the world, and they have gone contrary to the nature of God; therefore, they are in a state contrary to the nature of happiness.
12 And now behold, is the meaning of the word restoration to take a thing of a natural state and place it in an unnatural state, or to place it in a state opposite to its nature?
13 O, my son, this is not the case; but the meaning of the word restoration is to bring back again evil for evil, or carnal for carnal, or devilish for devilish—good for that which is good; righteous for that which is righteous; just for that which is just; merciful for that which is merciful.
14 Therefore, my son, see that you are merciful unto your brethren; deal justly, judge righteously, and do good continually; and if ye do all these things then shall ye receive your reward; yea, ye shall have mercy restored unto you again; ye shall have justice restored unto you again; ye shall have a righteous judgment restored unto you again; and ye shall have good rewarded unto you again.
15 For that which ye do send out shall return unto you again, and be restored; therefore, the word restoration more fully condemneth the sinner, and justifieth him not at all.
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I know that families can be together forever. I know that our Father in Heaven has a real body as does Jesus Christ. I know that we will also be given a perfect and immortal body just like theirs. While all men will live forever, only those who have performed the saving ordinances under the authority of the priesthood either personnally or by someone doing the work for them will have the opportunity to dwell eternally with their eternal companion and family and have increase.
QVO, I tell you these things because I know they are true and I know these things because the Holy Spirit has confirmed these things to me in the same way that Peter was revealed truth. In the same way you can confirm that these things are true if you will ask, believing that you will get an answer and in the name of Jesus Christ (See James Chapter 1 Verse 5). And finally I give you my testimony that Jesus lives, that he has gone before us to prepare a place for us and that he has restored his church here on the earth and I leave these things with you in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
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