On various groups, at various times, I am sure you all have seen the topics of “Posting Etiquette” and “Group Message Standards” broached in one way or another. Smart group Managers and their Moderators usually set up some type of rules and guidelines to steer their membership on course in order to stay “on topic” with whatever is the group focus. Most management folk set these rules in place immediately upon opening their group; some, unfortunately, must suffer an incident or two before realizing the necessity of defined guidelines.
All this makes sense to me.
What does not make sense to me, as I sit here tonight, is the obvious lack of “Etiquette” and ‘Standards” training provided by EONS to some of its staff that deal directly with the membership! Where are the “Terms of Use” and “Codes of Conduct” for those few that take a too personal and condescending tone towards members that only want answers to their questions? Words like “tact” …and “common courtesy” …and “professionalism” are what immediately come to mind… and are missing from some of the exchanges that I have witnessed. Every professional institution that I ever worked for, or had dealings with, always had set standards with which they expected their employees to adhere to. Especially the employees that dealt directly with the public!
I can understand the frustration that anyone in group management may feel by the “bog” of repetitive queries, off-topic posts, and clashes between the varying personalities that make up this online community. I manage two groups and have felt distressed and overwhelmed sometimes. To quote Mr. Incredible, the cartoon character, “I feel like the maid; I just cleaned up this mess! Can’t you keep it that way for awhile?!” But, when dealing with members on my groups, I try to always handle myself with tact, courtesy, and professionalism, because that is the least they deserve from me.
I strongly recommend to EONS that they re-evaluate the type of training that they provide to those employees that daily interact with the membership. Obviously, by the “slams” I have personally received and by the “slams” I have observed targeted toward other members… something is amiss. For the majority of dealings I have had with EONS staff, I am very satisfied. But the “first impression” that even one bad apple can present, is reflected back to the whole barrel. We want “tact”, not ‘tart”.
What about EONS STAFF “Etiquette” and “Standards"?
posted 11 months ago, updated about 1 hour later
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- 1. 11 months ago Rainbow16 wrote:
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Very good point, Marty. I have seen folk "slammed" by Eons staff members for asking the same question that didn't get a proper answer when previously posed by someone else. I suppose the staff was irritated and perhaps a little frustrated because Eons does have its glitches and problems as it tries to deal with an ever growing population. However, no one expects to be treated with ANY level of disrespect by staff members who are to uphold professionalism at all costs because they represent the "company".
Your blog was very well written. Your point was made and I hope it is "Heard" by the powers that be. If Eons is going to become the destined community that so many desire, then effectual changes will and must be made. Professionalism, tact, human relation skills, and communication skills are high on the list of priorities that should be on every staff member's agenda.
I applaud you for speaking out.
- 2. 11 months ago didi1213 wrote:
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well said marty...
- 3. 11 months ago BluesPlayer wrote:
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Although I haven't experienced what you have, I do agree with the concept. There really should be a standard for Eons staff when they deal with the public. Anything less just reflects poorly on the organization behind the site.
That said, here are a few other thoughts...
1. This is as new to them as it is to us. Remember that FedEx was started by 3 pilots and a lawyer. As the company grew, they had to bring in some pros who knew how to run a business. Maybe it's time Eons brought in a consultant to review customer support policies and put some standards and controls in place.
2. An effect method for "nipping this in the bud" is to have EVERY RESPONSE to a member reviewed by a manager...well, not EVERY, but certainly a sampling and on a regular basis. If there is a complaint to Eons regarding a response from one of their employees, then ALL of that person's interactions should be looked at. Many businesses have such a "review process" built into their customer service organizations to assure quality.
3. Organizations grow and mature...just like people, well, most people anyway. We are early adopters of the Eons "technology" and there will be some growing pains. Look at the first iPhone purchasers. Betamax? I hope we don't go down that road. I think you set the right tone, Marty. We need to show concern over this but not anger or indignation. Give them a chance to grow and make it right.
4. As for groups, moderators and members... Remember that this is the Eons "community" not the Eons "utopia". We will always have the good, the bad and the downright, unavoidable ugly. The key is not to be angered by it. Be kind, be caring...the rest will be what it is meant to be.
John
- 4. 11 months ago okhela wrote:
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I believe your comment is reasonable and measured, Marty. Hopefully, the EONS administrators are listening. It is not a blanket comdenation. Truly, one apple can spoil a bushel. I have received helpful recommendations from EONS staff members. And, I have requested assistance without response. My assessment is that the helpful staffmembers are unaware of the actions of the unresponsive staffmembers. Your suggestion could be a route to the improved performance of the EONS experience.
- 5. 11 months ago marisol1215 wrote:
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very well said.
- 6. 11 months ago piezy wrote:
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Marty, you were right "on point" and your statement was presented professionally and tactfully. Now let's wait and see what happens next.
Piezy
- 7. 11 months ago Reddz wrote:
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I think it was all said. No one needs to be treated with anything less than total respect-i don't care how many times question has been put to EONS or anything else.This is an adult place and we expect to be treated as such
"EL"
- 8. 11 months ago ValentineBaby wrote:
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Well said Marty! I've often seen a topic revisited by a new member's posting it. These member's were most likely not in that group when the topic was covered. Since there is no easy way to reference a particular topic, without having to go through each previous post, it is only natural to find it posted again. A simple, we covered this topic before and some of the answers we came up with were... Or just tell them on what page in that group that question can be found. There's no call for snippy remarks from someone who's job is to advise us.
- 9. 11 months ago mongomjal wrote:
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Excellant Marty, that has to be addressed. Professional guidelines and attitude is needed. Some people do not like to be part of a group that suffers from lack of courtesy and is always in turmoil. I can find better things to do. I must say that there are some outstanding managers and moderators. A good personel director in charge of training is needed here. Keep at it Marty
- 10. 11 months ago Classylind wrote:
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Very well said we deserve just as much respect as we give in our groups. because without us there would be no Eons
- 11. 11 months ago Catriona wrote:
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I agree, Marty. I've only seen a couple of instances, but it's enough to make me hesitate to ask questions in whatever group I think is the appropriate one.
- 12. 11 months ago BajaHorseLady wrote:
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Very well done, Marty. Nothing more alienating than that kind of impatience. Thanks for your thoughts so well written.
- 13. 11 months ago WiseOlOwl wrote:
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I whole heartedly agree!!!! I know of members being "slammed" as well, talked down to and the members integrity questioned. A simple polite, private email should suffice as most members may have made an "HONEST" error, maybe joined a group they really didn't belong in only because they saw an interesting post they wanted to respond to not paying attention to the actual name of the group. If advised in private, most are more than willing to correct. Many people are new to the concept of groups etc and are just learning. They should be advised, taught but never chastised. If you are to be a manager etc of a group, people skills are a must! What I witnessed was unnecessary and handled quite poorly by the group manager.
- 14. 11 months ago fiftyfineish wrote:
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ValentineBaby's comment was so aptly put. A gentle " we've had previous discussion on this topic and you can find it (where)" is exactly what either a newbie to the group or a person who might possibly be dealing with a slow connection or slow response time from the EONs servers needs to hear. Daydreamin, as always, you astound me with your insight and your well-written, well-thought out blogs and comments. And, the fact that you always offer suggestions to the problem you are pointing out shows your involvement and commitment to this community. I admire your ability to make us "see" and I am so impressed with your writing skills. Keep up the good work.
- 15. 11 months ago mswhyte wrote:
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Touche'! Well said. I hope that this particular issue is addressed in a polite and respectful manner..