I was invited to meet my friend’s friends for a glass of wine and some superficial conversation; I didn’t know one of them would bring along philosophical gasoline into which I’d throw a rhetorical match.
It was the 4th of July, a hot, sultry night in a Mexican restaurant in the heartland. I was the old friend from out of town, eager to revisit favorite haunts. This one was decorated with signed posters of local pro football stars and pulsing with music so loud nobody could understand the lyrics. Red, white and blue T-shirts and baseball caps reflected the spirit of the big American flag draped across the wall behind the bar.
I’d met my friend’s girlfriend once before, and remembered Alice as a nice, middle-aged mother of two grown kids who ran her own business. Of her husband, whom I’ll call Jack, I knew nothing except what I could see: medium height, beefy, a big gold watch, lots of hair in a buzz cut. The chip on his shoulder was invisible.
After we’d ordered our burritos and fajitas and Jack had called for a round of margaritas instead of wine, he turned to me and said: “So, what do you think about the war in Iraq?”
Uh-oh. That wasn’t a chit-chat question, this guy had an agenda.
“Well,” I said, starting off slow and soft, “I support the troops.”
And added silently to myself, Okay, buster, just leave it at that.
His wife glanced uneasily at him; my friend tried to change the subject. He bored in:
“I hear you were a reporter in Vietnam,” he said, taking a swig of his drink. “You one of those people who called us baby killers? You one of the people who lost us that war?”
I’d heard it all before, many times, but mostly from drunks. Jack was still sober; I made up my mind to bail before he got to the bottom of his glass.
But even though I knew better, I couldn’t let his slur slide by. I’d spent my professional life pursuing facts in order to write balanced, accurate journalism. I was sent to Vietnam as an accredited Associated Press correspondent charged with giving readers as much unbiased information as I could find so they could make up their own minds. That’s the only way I knew how to be a reporter. I tried the same approach with Jack.
Ignoring his cheap shot, I told him that I believed the United States should not have invaded Iraq, that the war was launched on false pretenses, that no evidence was ever found that proved Saddam Hussein harbored weapons of mass destruction, that we were in one helluva mess, and that nobody, including our president, knew how to get us out of it.
From then on, it was Katy bar the door. Jack ranted, Jack raved. He called me a traitor on the side of our enemies. He said all journalists should be censored because we undermine the security of the United States, adding “nobody believes you anyway because you make it all up.”
Jack proclaimed himself “a real American,” insisting that because he was a veteran of the United States Marine Corps he was right and I was full of poo.
I commended him for his service to his country but I don’t think he heard me; by then he was trashing me and my brethren so loudly other diners had put down their chips and salsa to listen.
But when he got to the part where he said I didn’t know what I was talking about because I was a woman, I asked him the question that always stops the bullies in their boot treads:
“So tell me, Jack,” I asked, oh so sweetly, “have you ever been in a war? Have you actually been shot at, you know, seen combat, watched American soldiers die?”
Jack paused in mid-rant and glowered.
I swear, the Devil and the arrogance of all these uber-patriots who never served their country farther west than Camp Pendleton nor east of Camp LeJeune made me do it; I delivered the coup de grace.
“Well, Jack,” I said, looking straight into his eyes, “I have.”
In the spreading silence, I got up from the table and left the restaurant.
As I write this, the American death toll in Operation Iraqi Freedom stands at 3,564, with 14,519 wounded. The price tag is at $1 trillion dollars, and increasing at $10 billion a week. The Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group appointed to advise President Bush about the war reported there is no military solution. Polls show nearly 70 percent of Americans have lost faith in the administration’s conduct of the war, though we continue to wholeheartedly support our troops wherever they serve.
Republican senators George Voinovich of Ohio and Richard Lugar of Indiana, the highest ranking minority member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, are urging the White House to begin withdrawing American forces from Iraq. Al Qaeda is more dangerous than ever, Osama bin Laden remains at large, the Taliban is aggressively counterattacking in Afghanistan, and America’s prestige in the world is at an all-time low.
A patriot is, foremost, an informed citizen. I do not allow Jacks without facts to foist lazy, misguided patriotism off on me. Wearing a red, white and blue baseball cap, flying Old Glory from the veranda, or even being a stateside veteran doesn’t qualify one American to denigrate another’s loyalty to the United States.
I believe – and stand up for – the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States. I vote in every election, national or otherwise. I pay all my taxes. As the daughter, wife and sister of military veterans, I support all Americans in uniform. I respect the office of President of the United States, even if I sometimes mightily disagree with its occupant. I honor the Stars and Strips, never fly it after dark or before dawn, keep it in good repair and out of the rain, and properly dispose of it when it is too tired to wave on my porch.
I try, at all times, to defend free speech, an independent press, all religious practices. I believe I have not only a right, but a duty, to say what I think in order to protect and defend America’s freedoms.
To all the Jacks out there, be warned: Don’t tread on me. I’ve witnessed war’s tragedy, waste, pain and suffering. Opposing it makes me a better patriot.
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Photo description and credit
Soldiers from Delta Company, 4th Battalion, 31st Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division rest after searching for three of their comrades still missing after a May 12 attack that left four U.S. soldiers and an Iraqi soldier dead in Quarghuli village, near Youssifiyah, 12 miles (20 kilometers) south of Baghdad, Iraq Friday, May 18, 2007. (AP Photo/Maya Alleruzzo)



posted by FrenchConnection
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posted by naryred
I was one who was forced to kill or be killed, in Vietnam. And I returned as a committed pacifist.
That 3500+ men and women were intentionally killed in order to prove a point, simply leaves me cold. And there is no getting around the fact that one or several of these people had been future statesmen, or artists, or scientists, or inventors. They would have been the fathers of, or the mothers of, a part of the next generation, that will sorely miss them for their not being born.
We have maimed over14,000 men and women, physically, emotionally, and mentally scarring them to the point that they will hardly live up to the potential God gave them.
And all because of a war we cannot get out of, and 5 or 10 more will die today, and the same tomorrow, and it will never stop.
I am the disable vet, who cannot function fully because of War.
I am damn proud to live in America, but there are times when I am ashamed of my country's policies.
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posted by TravelJunkie
Also it is amazing that our country cannot find bin Laden and has given up on the hunt. Seems a bit strange since we are spending billions on trying to stop terror and cannot find the head terrorists.
I am also not given to the fear I am supposed to be feeling.
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posted by CofnCrnr
And to you Taddie, I think that YOU are more of a patriot than most soldiers out there. Some one who goes to the battle without a gun to let the rest of the country know what is going on with our boys and the situation. Contrary to popular government belief... we want to know!
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posted by swede1128
We now have national elections coming up and hear the rattling of political sabers in both camps. The Republicans have a plan to end the war by sending more troops over there, it didn't work for Lyndon Johnson in Viet Nam why should we think it will work now. The Democrats want to withdraw and bring everyone home just like Nixon did in Viet Nam, that didn't work out so awfully terrible in the long run. Looks to me as if each of the party's are using the other parties Viet Nam exit strategy all over again.
Sending more troops just provides more targets for the terrorists - bringing all the troops home just leaves the region in chaos with no long term solution. Can't anyone come up with a real plan, other than vote for us we'll make it better trust me cause the other guy/girl stinks.
I'm confused
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posted by ray1946
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posted by swede1128
I hope that's a rhetorical we you used at the end of your comment. I may be unhappy with many of the decisions and actions of the administration, but I will never be ashamed of the President or Vice President of the United States.
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posted by SteveJ
The issue is not your right to say what you believe, or your right to report on what you wish, but your (or mainstream media's) attempt to editorialize while reporting. The stories are carefully selected, and then artfully contrived to support your point of view. On that last point, story selection, it even goes to the extent of using Jehadi tapes on the evening news.
By the way, you say you support the troops but not the mission. How do you do that, especially considering that this is a high stakes affair for the troops. What do the troops have to do maintain your support? Mutiny? Desert? Not reup four times?
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posted by rick41146
I might leave this one comment. Taddie, evidently you were very young when you were in Viet Nam. Too bad you didn't see the conditions thru more mature eyes.
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posted by ZV7
The military industrial complex which President Eisenhower spoke of in his farewell address is alive and thriving; it includes the pentagon, defense contractors, the congress, and some so-called think tanks. War is profitable for these folks, and they can care less who is dying or crippled by it; this has been the case since World War II. And as hideous as this is; the current war in Iraq is also fueled by religious zealots on both sides. Bush is a religious zealot who thinks that he is on a god given crusade; because that is the way he referred to the war in Iraq in the beginning, and his former defense contractor V.P.’s friends are racking in the money getting rich on this war; while radical Muslims are on some messianic mission to destroy Israel, and cripple the U.S. and Britain. There are definitely lots of religious overtones in this war coming from both sides, as well as allot of people making money. But the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the attacks of September 11, 2001.
What amazes me is how the American people has never stopped a war before it begun. I mean the build-up to Iraq was very clear, and we did little to stop it. Even further, Americans re-elected George W. Bush in 2004, after he had invaded Iraq. Now just about everyone’s dissatisfied with the war and the job Bush is doing. In my opinion, we the people have to take some responsibility for that. Being a patriot is about allot more than just talking and waving the flag. Patriots in past centuries put their lives on the line to oppose their government. Americans are responsible for their government. And we need to be more proactive and have less of this whiney reactive behavior. People need to be involved with their political representatives on a continuous basis. Democracy only works when its’ citizens are involved, and the very poor showing that we have frequently had in electing our representatives contributes to our current democracy being run by the few.
I salute those who serve in our military; they are pawns, and in my opinion our current government can care less whether they live or die. Action speaks louder than words, and it is the governments actins that has bought me to these conclusions, as well as the actions of the American people. Don’t tread on my patriotism…..well if we don’t vote and are not involved with your elected officials, and the issues of today which effect America, then we are treading on our own patriotism; and much more than that!
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posted by txmama
I hope we can all enjoy the 4th and what it stands for. I am fed up with everyone yelling about who is patriotic and who isn't. I think we all are, just in sometimes very different ways. What other country would offer us the freedom to disagree with our government and each other without fear of being thrown into prison or worse. Let's just agree to disagree.
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posted by FlyWacko
The only reason people like you can sit back and make your inane pronouncements is that people like me are willing to shed our blood to keep you free. And, yeah, I've got two of those little purple thingies to prove my point. The only reason you are not in the forefront spitting on the guys when they return, is that it is a bit out of fashion now. But you pray each day that it returns. Iraq was a crap hole that had to be cleaned out. So are Iran and North Korea. And, unfortunately, we are the only ones who can do it.
So go ahead and hate me, I never have given a hoot. But then, hate is all people like you know. Occasionally you have to make a stand, draw a line and have the guts to back it up. Like my Dad did on Omaha Beach, and my Buddies and I did in the rice bowl.
My 24 cents...
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posted by MartiWukelic
Just as I allowed conservative fundamentalists to bully me away from my childhood impression of Jesus Christ, I nearly allowed the vocal pro-war mob to bully me into believing that the love and loyalty I have for my country is somehow inferior to their much louder version. I said nearly. I will not let it happen again. This is not to say I am at peace with my relationship with my country, I am not. In fact my confusion sort of tumbled out here: (http://martiw.livejournal.com/38740.html?view=262740#t262740). But like all relationships, this one I have with my United States of America has some pretty rocky phases and am in one right now. But to stay with the relationship analogy-- this one is a keeper and worth working on. And I'm hopeful. Instant communication forums such as blogs like this are going to be a valuable tool by affording "regular" people the opportunity to dialog in a manner that is unprecedented. It seems to be the key to working out the 'where do we go from here' part. But then again, I'm an optimist.
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posted by patglenn
I cry over the fighting men we've lost for no good reason, and I understand why they're still over there fighting and dying. ..Their commander in chief told them to go. Unfortunately, that doesn't make them bulletproof. I wish it did.
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posted by skbnwinters
There isn't time right now for me to go over your points line-by-line....I am sorry you have "suffered war's tragedy, waste, pain"....you would think you would learn something. "There is a time for peace, and there is a time for war." For such a time as this. My deepest regret is that GWB will not receive the credit he so richly deserves. PS............There IS a solution. We must wipe out cancerous terrorism wherever we find it--NOW.
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